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I recently picked up a Bayern fire medal & would love an opinion on it by some more experienced medal collectors. I've got several of the 25 Year & 40 Year examples however this one has a different reverse that states"Fur Hervorragende Leistungen Im Feuerwehrdienst". I know originals of this type were only awarded for a brief period in the 1930s & presumably for something special, maybe life saving? I figure as much considering the translating of "outstanding acheivement".
The construction appears to be of brass & is of equal quality to the other, more common examples I have. In fact, this one is quite detailed, right down to the buckle on the strap of the helm. I suppose what I'm saying is that this medal exhibits none of what I consider the usual "red flags" of post war reproductions. Has anyone else seen one of these? Your thoughts are most appreciated.
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Reverse with the inscription.
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Here's a comparison of the medal with two of the more commonly seen examples. All have slight detail differences but nothing that jumps out.
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The rings on the brass example are identical to those of the others in size, etc. If a reproduction, I'm thinking it's a well done one but that I would have seen others along the way. Anyway, I appreciate any insight you guys can offer. Thanks much.
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I don't know about more experiance, but I certainly have a book.....
"Deutsche Feuerwehr Auszeichnungen" by Gert Efler
This medal was in use from 1920 - 1928. From what I understand with my poor German is that it was originally made in black cast iron (Gu�eisen, schwarz) in 1921, then cast in bronze (Bronzein, gegossen) 1923 & finally coin stamped bronze (Bronze, gepr�gt) from 1924 - 1928. It was made by Jakob Leser, M�nchen
Awarded for outstanding service rather than long service, the iron version was awarded 22 times, the cast bronze 52 times & the stamped bronze 155 times.
Hope this helps
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Hi Don,
Many thanks for that info, it's much appreciated. I've got Efler's book but not where I'm living now. I did know this particular medal was awarded sparingly so I thought it might have been a good pickup, in the event it's period. Have you ever seen another? I saw one or two a years back on Eban but was too fearful to take a chance.
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No sorry, never seen another.....
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Nice score Billy. I've only seen one other on the market (a black one- now I that I know the difference thanks Don!). I wish I'd seen an Urkunde, then maybe some more detail would be shed on what kind of service would merit the award. I speculate that it's for an outstanding act of bravery.
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Is that just a plain white ribbon on it DJ? I can't make it out on my screen. If so, what an easy replacement!
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Thanks for the help guys. I guess even a blind hog can find an acorn once in a while
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Lance, I believe it to be pale blue with white stripes.
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Billy,
Here is a Bavarian FW medal Spange. I presume the medal would have a similar blue and white ribbon?
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I forgot to say, the book seems to list two ribbons depending I assume on what it was awarded for?
a. FF: himmelblau (7x) mit Wei� (6x) im Wechsel b. Berufswehren: karmoisinrot
The colour image in the book shows a reddish colour ribbon.
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Thanks guys. These would be the ribbons for the 25 & 40 year examples. That Imperial Feuerwehr site seemed to show a white or off white ribbon for the bronze medal.
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Another one I found over the years, I thought maybe it was for some other purpose although it's reverse is for 25 years service. It came sans ribbon. The color is a dark brown/black, sorry for the poor picture quality.
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I always found this one to be interesting. Although I can't tell for certain, I thought the FW helm resembled the one on this eras Bayern pieces. I wonder what happened on October 9, 1919 too.
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