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Is this the real deal? I doubt it, personally. I bought off a reenactment buddy who picked it up in the '80s I believe. Like I said, neither of us think it's real, but I'd like your guys' expert opinions.

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Well, crap. How do I post large KB pictures? It's telling me the max size is 75kb, and all the pictures are above 200. Help?

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Send them to me I can resize the pictures for you. [email protected]

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Just sent them...3:00pm Central

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N.W. go into the computer forum and there is an easy resizing tool there.Also if you have XP it tells you how to get windows program. Cool


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Here we go, thanks for the bit about the resizing tool

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That's the best I can get them right now with my camera. It doesn't like to focus on things within 3 inches....

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Closer pics are needed, but so far the engraving looks off to me.

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Already got them posted, sorry for taking so long in trying to do it I had family over. Wink

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Thanks for trying!

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I'll try taking closer pictures, but I think this might be the best that they'll get. The frustrating thing about this ring is that I've had it next to a real one and I can't tell the difference. Though honestly, I think it's just a damn good fake. Anyone else with an opinion please let me know.
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And if anyone wants larger picks in order to see better detail, ask and I'll e-mail them to you.

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Kirchen, you have the pictures I e-mailed you, what do you think?

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Wolfram , N.W.,,welcome to the forum...

N.W.,,try just a close crop on your large photos to just the ring,,that should cut down the kb..Also,is there a first initial before the last name and how does the date appear exactly.. , G.

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The inside reads: S.lb. Koch 9.11.36 H. Himmler

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Look like a fake Wink

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not up on the ring but after 14 yars of not smoking i can taste that lucky strike from England Big Grin

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If is is a fake it was cast directly from a mold made from an original. It is a 40's style ring and is either a on off fake or a replacment for a lost/worn 1936 awarded ring.

Engraving looks deep to me for a 40's made ring and the oakleaves look a little off center on the main band, at least in one or two of the photos. I would really have to judge the detail with it in person or with some super quality photos.

I have some doubts, but I can not dismiss this one yet. It is not typical of any of the fakes that I recall seeing.

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I vote fake. I can't put my finger on it but, something is odd. Might be the deep seem line.

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I agree with the idea that it is a replacement ring. It just doesn't have the wiskers from being awarded in '36 not to mention the design of being a 40's ring. It is a peculiar ring to say the least.

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well if real it would be a reissue,the dates correct,Koch is a popular name..

But the engraving, top view and wide seam are troubling...Are the nose and a slight top portion of the teeth look like they have a lot of wear? maybe partially erased ,smoothed out?

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Make clean FOTO
its very poor quality foto

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If you email me very close-up photos of the runes, I can tell you for sure whether it is real or fake. Having seen a very close-call ring recently, I can say that it is pretty much impossible to judge a ring via photos, unless the runes are very closely photographed.


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Got it. I'll try and pull it off.

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