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Early Eickhorn Armies............ Ya gotta love them!
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Of course we do JR !  Niiiiiiiiice !
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Absolutely! One of those fine pointy objects that are always a joy to fondle on a cold winters night! ~ Ian
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John , you have the best stuff .I will wait for a second from you 
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Those are simply the best, I love those double oval Eickhorns. How do you do it.
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I agree, and the slightly later ones aren't too shabby either. 
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Beautiful dagger... Dr. J !
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Great looking daggers Guys!!!!!!!
I really need to get something like that.
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JR, do you know who made the scabbard?
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Hi JR
Perhaps a stupid question but why is the makersmark at the frontsite?
Regards Jan
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Sir, someone turned it around a long time ago and that's the way that it has remained of all of these years.
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I also believe some of the early armies were assembled this way.
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Forgive me, but I'm puzzled about the scabbard on JR's new dagger. To me, that's not an Eick product. Am I out to lunch or do others see this too?
It was a great guy selling it, and I would have bought it for more than it went for to JR, except that scabbard stopped me from finalizing the deal...
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Lance, too much gets read into: "only this company could possibly produce this scabbard with this dagger." With 229 makers of SA daggers, any collector would be hard pressed to prove what scabbard came with what dagger. Yes there are certain characteristics on parts used by some of the larger firms that collectors can sometime familar themself with, but one only has to look in TJ books to see invoices of these same firms selling parts to each other when needed. The Eickhorn that I show has a completely undisturbed 60 year patina that can attests to the grip, crossguard, pommel, and scabbard, being married together for all of this time. And personally, I wasn't even about to switch the blade around on this one to conform to what we normally see with the TM on the reverse. It's sort of like a portapee on an M36 SS dagger. How do we know that it came that way or someone put it on the dagger post war? Well when you inspect one that has been on there forever, the bullion is engrained right into the grip, and the cord frozen in the shape that it's been for half a century. How do we know that one WKC scabbard or grip hasn't been switched to another WKC Army dagger? We don't as we can't follow the chain of evidence back to when a particlar piece was 1st made. When I purchase any 3rd Reich edged weapon, I look at the over all fittment of the parts, condition of it, and general overall appearence. If I like it I buy it. There was no doubt in this one........... all black, undisturbed, and veteran fresh.
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Couldn't agree more with you JR, gorgeous dagger
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4 trademarks, 4 crossguards, 2 pommels, 2 ferrules, 2 scabbards, taper tang and regular blades, slant and regular grips, who is to tell what any eick should look like. If that is not an Eick scabbard then neither is mine, got two right in front of me now with different scabbard bands, and apart from that Eickhorn did sometimes use other maker or generic parts.
Nice daggers shown here, blade on JR's looks stone mint, just the way I like them.
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Beauty JR, and others posting theirs!
I like Eickhorn and have a few also!
JR is right I believe also on some daggers
have just been together and thats that!
I have a few non conform ones, that I know the source.
I too am a buyer based on overall appeal,appearence,
and patina and many factors when looking!
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When you insist on everything being 100% "textbook" you will pass up just a whole lot of beautiful original daggers. The textbook thing is way over rated-the textbooks are often wrong or incomplete. Show me ANY textbook on German edged weapons and I'll show you SEVERAL mistakes. It's not that easy-many pieces have to be evaluated considering a number of factors. It's kind of what separates the newbee from the advanced-IMO.
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Lance, I don't think your out to lunch it probably isn't an Eickhorn scabbard but it's been with it from day 1, why, who knows but it's right for that dagger, no it doesn't conform to a Text book early eickhorn but many daggers don't conform, it's the way it is and thats all that can be said.It's not been messed with at all and is a 100% correct dagger in my opinion in unbelievably good condition.
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My Eick to include "door dents"
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If the G.I. who picked it up changed the scabbard because of the dents would it be wrong??
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I often wonder how much was changed by the G.I.,I know some dealers did and may still do it
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 Way to much information there I'm thinking, funny though. Those two are great looking Army's as well, I love em when there dark like that. Gary
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When you can find these Eicks in nice condition, throw away the book and get out the cash.
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I agree, every double oval I have come across that has been for sale I have bought, I was buying them 4 years ago for $800, now I rarely see them for less than $1200. The only way these types are going is up.
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Thanks for the info. I hope no one thinks I'm slamming it- I do like the dagger. I've wanted an early double oval for ages; but I guess I just really did want "textbook" for once.
I'm not sure when Eick started subcontracting for parts; I just assumed that it wasn't happening for the earliest daggers. (TW's book seems to stress that Eick had unique parts in house right down to the throats.)
Ironically, I like the style of bands on this scabbard better than standard eicks. In the TW army book it appears but is unidentified: there are a few examples that match it, right down to the loose scabbard bands on one of them.
Does anyone else have this scabbard combo (throat, screws, bands) on a dagger?
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