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hi all, i only own the one hj. which i bought as a representitive of the type. i mainly collect heer/sa daggers. but i browse all the edged weapon forums just so i`m up to date with the latest fakes, info etc. recently i read that the anodized scabbards are found on around one per cent only of all hj knives. is that true?. my one and only has is anodized , does this make it any rarer?, when i bought it i thought many makers anodized, what`s the truth?. thanks in anticipation, steve.

I don't know how anyone can say with certainity only 1% had these scabbards. That is another one of the "facts" spouted around without proof established with production records etc. They are more difficult to find but not extremly rare by any means. The scabbards could be ordered as an extra and I have veteran acquired them on early to late knives. I seem to have found most on rzm/m7 56 Motto examples. Nice and desireable to be sure but not worth paying double for. I have people contacting me all the time wanting one to put with that pristine knife they found without paint on the scabbard from all the drawer wear. Know your source. Lance for Russ

thanks for the info. as i said hj`s are not my main interest, but i feel as much info as you can get on each type of edged weapon does no harm.my knife is a rzm 7/68.thanks again, steve.

The 1% expression, is used more as a figure of speech than actual facts.
I have one of these so called 1% anodized HJ scabbard and I still think that they are still extremelly rare, as I never see them around.
How rare ? Perhaps 2% ?
Nobody has any specific datas on these but they are still damn rare and I wouldn't be surprised if 1 out every 100 only have an anodized scabbard.
But wait, does 1 out every 100 still makes 1%

Great information "Russ"! I know you know your stuff when it comes to HJ's! Thanks, JohnJ

I also don't think that anyone would pay much of a premium in order to get a HJ knife with an anodised scabbard.
Perhaps, paying $ 200 more for an anodised scabbard would be fair enought.
Russ, I didn't know that these anodised scabbard were not that rare, I sincerely thought that they were almost impossible to find.
I can't really say that I've looked for them but I never see them for sale.
Perhaps, I'm not surfing on the right militaria web site.

There are hundred's of HJ knife for sale on the web at the moment but could anyone show me one with an anodised scabbard.

Pat, I have a transitional by E-Pack with an anodised scabbard and single runner...

Red

Here's another in great shape, also a Pack...

Red

Very nice HJ knife !
Perhaps, this knife once belonged to Eugene Terreblanche.

Haven't seen that flag in a while...

Red

Have to admit that it is a pretty cool flag and we know where he got his reference from.

ja henckels with anodized scabbard

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Until this post I had never heard of the "1%" opinion/theory. It sounds to me like something dreamed up by some dealer to ask for an even more outrageous price on an HJ and/or some collector embellishing the rarity of his own piece for some reason. Whatever......

I have never had a problem getting one when I wanted one but then I have years and years of contacts to draw upon. I purchased 3 HJs at the 05 MAX with andonized scabbards and paid $180 for the most expensive. One was from Ron Wolin and I don't remember who the other 2 came from.
If you only want one, then that is sure the one to have and go after but I personally would not buy the knife just because it had the andonized scabbard. Chances are if its coming from a dealer and the knife is near mint or mint it is mated together anyway. I get calls from dealers all the time wanting to know if I have an andonized scabbard because they have found a knife that "screams" for one! As my son says: WORD!!!

Personally, I would never pay more than $50 more for an HJ with andonized scabbard than I would for a comparitive HJ with painted scabbard and that is if I needed or wanted the knife. But then I have only been buying and collecting HJs since the 60s. I think of the 350 or so keepers I have there are about 55 with andonized scabbards that came to me that way for what its worth. YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY.

To answer the question about andonized scabbards, Lakesidetrader has 3 right now. Lance

1%, 2% who knows... You will find the odd repainted example with anodizing under the paint, if you look hard where the paint is worn you can tell looking at the exposed undercoat.
What I do know for sure is that the anodized examples do not hang around for any length of time. :>
Lance or Russ can you pls contact me.
Paul