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Hello members, i have aquired from a friend only a torso of KS98 bayonet, the rusted blade is 250mm long, was previously nickled, has not stampings anywhere, the grip is not pot metal but steel, on left side inner area is stamped with WKC and logo, but there is drilled hollow for grip rivet, and its serialed to blade tang 7, 288,on right side of tang is only 91 stamped. I assume it is a metal grip from WKC that was used by other manufacturer. In pommel is missing the locking stud and press button. The crossguard looks like the hook was removed, but i am not certainly. I would ask the experts for similar pieces, it is special WKC number and pionier model, or it was reworked normal KS98? Thanks for any help, best regards,Andy

Andy,

Is this simply a reworked steel KS98 like these?

George

Hi George, You could have right on this, the crossguard hook was probably removed, You blades have any WKC markings? On blade and part of tangs are remains of nickled finish.Thanks and best regards,Andy
PS. Note the different pommel, similar like by 84/98 bayonets

Andy, have you a picture from the other side? one would think its a pioneer when looking at pommel?

The crossguard seems to have a sharp bevel that’s not quite even in appearance. And the pommel seems to have a couple of places where the metal is not finished evenly. Conversely, the top of the pommel seems to have more physical bulk than the KS98 or is that an optical illusion?

I don’t have any comparable WKC Pioneer Seitengeweher for comparison - but how far does Andy’s example deviate from regular WKC Pioneer Seitengeweher versus the KS98? FP

Hello members, thanks for answers, the previous owner has probably done a refinish on pommel and crossguard, on hard accesable spaces are still remain of nickled finish, the pommel has not the eagle form certainly, have anyone a picture of similar piece with hook on guard? Thanks,Andy

Sorry, but any pictures are not extra sharp.

Andy,

WKC did make these all steel KS98. One thing you often notice with these bayonets is that they are slightly larger overall than the plated Extrawaffen KS98 and they have a T slot instead of a T/O slot. I notice the one you show has a slightly modified T slot and not a T/O slot. It does seem that it was extensively reworked by somebody.

George

I’m thinking that it looks a lot like a dress version of an 84/98 but never really intended to go on a rifle. The two piece construction precludes having a cleanout slot in the tang that also accommodated a cleaning rod. So not having a T/O configuration is not all that surprising at least to me. What say you dress bayonet specialists?? FP

Hello, thanks for responses, the previous owner , as it was little rusted and the nickled finish was gone had used a grind stone, so the finish is on any edges harder, but dont believe that the slot have upgraded, the rifle slot could be to 2/3 attached to rifle, but probably too rusted innerside to adding is completely, but have 4 cm long slot. My question was, exist a similar formed head of pommel(84/98) with a hook on crossguard (KS98)or it was a pionier modell and never had a hook on crossguard? Thanks ,Andy
PS. it was 10 bucks cheap so i bought it only for study, me interested the steel handgrip with WKC stamp inside