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RON - CONGRATULATIONS(!)

These are really some exceptional TeNo items and Col. T.J. are bringing to light! Lots of TeNo items that we haven't seen & don't know about. Ron, Looking forward to seeing the treasure trove posted! ... Txs, Dave/dblmed


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RON - CONGRATULATIONS(!) # 2 (Sp)

These are really some exceptional TeNo items that you & Col. T.J. are bringing to light! Lots of TeNo items that we haven't seen & don't know about. Ron, Looking forward to seeing the treasure trove posted! ... Txs, Dave/dblmed


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There is are a lot of rare photos and dagger / accouterments being shown here. Excellent thread.

Thanks to all,
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I don't know why, but I think this thread is probably one of the best we have seen on this forum for a very long time!...Just wonderfull!

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Please post more Teno daggers. This will make a nice archive for future references.

We have not seen all the NCO & EM knots. If you got'em show em!

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Here's my small contribution to this great thread. Smile
Sadly, I haven't got any of the fancy hangers for a fully dressed up Teno for a "night out". Wink

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Pat ...Your TeNo Officer's Dagger is Outstanding!
All of the accoutrements will come in time.

Here is a Phenomenal Robert Noss Photo, which he
had posted on the TeNo Insignia tread. It is also
the Featured Photo for the TeNo Dagger - in the new book, "Police Vol. 2." Thanks to Robert!

Best ... Dave/dblmed

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Notice how the knot is tied, Army style, this is unusual.

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Thank you Dave.
How in the world do you find all of these great pictures ? Were your relatives in the Teno organisation during the war ? Big Grin

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Very nice dagger you've all. I'll post picture om mine tomorrow.
Just a question:
It seems that there is a big interrogation about the frog of the TeNo hewer dagger. The one with the triangle above the metal clip. WWII construction or post war? If it's post war ...why?
This "triangle frog" is for sale as authentic by a lot of reputed dealer...

Photo attached. I hope this thread about TeNo will help me...

Thanks Wink

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Thanks Pat ... No relatives in the TeNo - that would be great! After trying to collect a 'bit of it all' for 20 years, I narrowed my interests to SS, TeNo and Schuma about 8-9 years ago. I started buying every TeNo • TN Photo, Photo Albums, Documents, and TN Items, that I could afford. I got lucky with finding some great representative, and a few unique, Photos.

Last year I bought the TeNo Landesführer Walther Junecke collection from his family in Germany. He was also a Police GenMajor. I'll be posting a number of his special items in a few months when I get them all organized. (Some of his items are shown in the TeNo Chapter of the new Book, "Police Vol. 2" - so it is fun to share them with the collecting community.)

Eric -100%, the portepee tie is wrong! Should be wrapped around the lower edge of the grip only. Most of the higher Officers in the TN were ex-WWI army guys, so he may have picked up some bad habits! ... Txs, Dave/dblmed


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I would had guessed he was in the Army at some point in time OR he has a duel duty?

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Matarese .... Here are some good threads about the TeNo EM/NCO - Subordinate Hangers, full of LOTS of information about them.

(1) Posted 18 March 2008 18:55 by Houston Coates
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...660030345#6660030345

"...About 20 years ago a whole lot of these [TeNo Subordinate] hangers with the triangle appeared on the market place. They were all in mint condition and had an odd smell to them. They were rather cheap and flooded the market bringing the prices of all types down for quite a long time. All types were very difficult to sell--everyone had one.
Before that we had never seen this type.
They do have some minor differences when compared to the type without the triangle.
I am not saying they are fake but you can see why I prefer the other type...."

(2) Another Informative Thread on TeNo Hangers, and their differences.
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...886/m/7670099263/p/1

Best... Dave/dblmed


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Thanks a lot Dave for these very instructive thread.
It seems that it's the H&Co 37 pattern with triangle that is doubtful.
My frog is with the triangle...but the clip is assman marked....
This frog was on a 100% authentic dagger.
Any comment?

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Thanks Matarese, Yes, there was a LOT to read in those threads about the construction & "look" of the TN Subordinate Hewer Hanger.
The Assmann 'clip' does make one feel much more at ease, but...

I have not found (Yet!) any photos or documents which actually 'show' a close up of the specified construction of the TeNo Hewer Hangers.

I think that it is best to defer your Question to Ron W. and Houston on these, as they have seen the time-line of items in TR Collecting.
Txs, Dave/dblmed


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Hallo,
this Konvolut i became two jears ago from a collector from Graz.
It is a letter from Teno chef Weinreich and two letters from Landesführer Junecke.

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Oliver ...EIN GROSSES Willkommen zu GDC! A BIG welcome to GDC!

Your Konvolut is a spectacular & it is a very significant TeNo collection.

• You have the TeNo Hewer of TN-Mann JOSEPH STERF
(It is soooooooo very unusual to find out who was the owner of the Daggers / Hewers that we collect! This is great news.)

• You have letters from the top man of the TeNo, Chef der TN und SS Gruppenführer, Hans Weinreich & from a TN Landesführer, Walther Junecke (who became the #3 man of the TN, as the Chef der Stabs in Berlin in 1943!

All 3 letters were sent to your TN-Mann, JOSEPH STERF! WOW. Congratulations!

• and you have the Wehrpass of TN-Mann JOSEPH STERF! Since it is a Wehrpass & not a TN Soldbuch, it is quite possible that he was one of the TN • TeNo men who were taken into the HEER in 1941. They formed the Technische Truppen of the HEER, which was commanded by Erich Hampe, the former #2 man at the TN • TeNo! Some GREAT history is to be found in your Konvolut!

Amazing and THANK YOU for sharing your wonderful Konvolut with us!

Oliver, I have re-Posted your items on the dedicated TeNo Thread on GDC at:
http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...44/m/2280097494/p/18

The Collectors at that Thread would love to see these - and hopefully to see the pages of the Wehrpass of JOSEPH STERF as well. TeNo Insignia, Uniforms, Documents, Visors, Caps, etc., are discussed on that TeNo thread.

Again, WELCOME, and thank you for sharing with us some very rare items!

•••••••••••••••••••

I have attached a Photo from my collection of TN Landesführer Walther Junecke in 1942, wearing his TN Officer's Dagger, the GOLD TN Buckle and Brocade, and his Greatcoat with the rare 'cut-out' TN Eagle. (This photo is also shown in the new book, German Police, VOL. 2, Bender, of which Chapter 19 [200 pages!] is devoted to the TeNo. Great new information!) ...Txs, Dave/dblmed

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Thank you gblmed vor the flowers :-)

In germany my konolut was not interestet but her-wonderful resonance.....

I post the next day den Wehrpass for you.

And thank you for the nice welcome, it´s very fine here:-)

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WOW Eek. Now thats a great grouping, Oliver. Thanks for showing it. Looking forward to seeing the Wehrpass entries Cool.

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@Oliver,

great stuff Wink

Gerd

Was it shown in the MFF Confused

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Great stuff Oliver and thanks for sharing. Cool

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Pat ...Your beautiful Dressed up TeNo Hewer "Ready for a Night Out".
Is bringing out a number of TeNo friends to accompany her!
Pat's thread has Lots of Super information for those interested in the Hewer und Daggger/Dolche of the Technische Nothilfe...
Txs, ...Dave/dblmed


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Matarese,
I want comment your hanger: In my humble opinion and due to what I have seen up to now, your hanger is not period made.
It shows a certain construction mistake, obviously made by the manufacturer who either did not have an original by hands or a disambled one and therefore did not know exactly how to put it together. and there is also another construction feature I could observe with fakes.
No regard to the triangle stitching as I have seen this on originals and copies as well as these without the triangle were observed on originals and fakes.
No comment on the snap as there is a lot of original surplus (although I personally also do not like special minute details of the Assmann mark but I am not too experienced with it).
Just my opinion, sorry that I cannot say something positive.
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Thanks Wotan for your comment.
It'll be very instructive for all us to know the red flags on my hanger.
What are the "construction mistake" on this one?
Have you an original to compare?

Thanks.
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Matarese, I totally do understand your wish for knowledge but, please, also do understand that I in no way want to support fakers in spreading this certain minute knowledge.
I do have 4 (imo) original ones, one with the triangle stitching and three without, and I have seen some other imo originals and all have certain features the (imo) doubtless copies do not have.
I think some of my hangers are shown in this thread already.
I am also aware that these imo faked hangers are offered by some high end dealers but I have also heard that they took them back without question after complaint....
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I understand your position.
It'll be nice to send me photos of your hanger with the triangle & show the difference with mine. Private message if you prefer. Don't worry, with my work & my wife I've no time to do fake leather hanger in this time... Big Grin

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I only have the one.. Its a nice one though.. I have the hanger put away.. Chris

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Nice display Chris with the Honor goblet. Smile

Uh, where did Eric von Rader go? Confused

-serge-

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Von Rader??

I think Id have remembered owning one?

What else is cool on that shelf is the Goring Cup behind it and the pocket watch. The both belonged to LT Warren Eckberg (the guy that "liberated" Goring's baton) then lost it to the FBI in 46. His son called me and sold me the last piece his dad brought back..

I have a link somewhere on the forum on the whole story.. just search ECKBERG and it will come up.

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Eric von Rader is alive and well and living at WAF Wink

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