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#117551 08/21/2007 02:07 AM
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Alright boys, you all have laid a bunch of guilt on me for not sharing my knowlege on these WPP Eickhorn Daggers with you, so I am going to give you a BIG HINT: For those of you with an original Eickhorn catalog and an original Eickhorn navy, compare Eickhorn WPP Daggers with regular Eickhorn Navy Daggers and look for the little, but definite difference on the dagger.
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#117552 08/21/2007 04:15 AM
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Well Ron, I have and original Eickhorn Kunderendienst Catalog and an Eickhorn WWP dagger and three WKC Navy daggers, but I guess I'll just have to pick me up a regular Eickhorn Navy dagger if I'm going to make this study complete! Thanks Ron . . . one more dagger I'm going to have to go looking for! Big Grin ~ Ian


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#117553 08/21/2007 06:28 AM
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I have two available!
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#117554 08/22/2007 05:17 PM
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Here is a target to discuss. I got this in an entire collection awhile back. Had to take the whole thing even thu I didn't completely like this WPP. I really am only comfortable with Alcoso WPP's. My views are these:

- The pommel, crossguards and scabbard are Eick. The blade and all were once a WPP. The grip wire and eagle make me nervous which is why it has been laying in the "I don't want to deal with this box" for a long time.

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#117555 08/22/2007 05:20 PM
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#117557 08/22/2007 05:56 PM
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Not good in my opinion.
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#117558 08/22/2007 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the viewing and comments. Are the Eick. WPP typically an "open" wreath emblem?

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It isn't the grip emblem that is the problem.
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#117560 08/22/2007 10:44 PM
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Ron,

Tell us about the crossguard please.

Dave

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I do not want to pry too hard as I know that some details would like to be kept close but I would like to ask:

Is the site opinion that the grip emblem is an Eick. WPP type?

I have never seen that type of grip wire on an Eick. naval type piece so that is a major negative to me.

Thanks.

#117562 08/25/2007 05:08 PM
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I agree about the wire. Probably -no factory applied this wire IMO. But--IMO all the grip emblems were privately applied-maybe by a factory-maybe not. The reason I say this is that no two seem to be alike so the wire could have been added during the period too. Also-I know of no factory offering these grip emblems-- but they were used.
It is also my opinion that many of these daggers were made up during the period from Navy daggers and also post war. That makes things very difficult.
Policemen for the most part did not make that much money.
I know Ron has a theory about a rather IMO minor difference between the Eickhorn Navies and these but I am not sure. I need to look at several in hand to see if I agree.


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#117563 09/29/2007 04:14 PM
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In some of my old factory Eickhorn documents I have found companies as early as 1952-54 asking to have 3 reich daggers made. Pressed scabbard bands were never period...

#117564 09/30/2007 12:05 AM
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Sorry-not true. Late Eickhorn steel scabbards have pressed bands. Some even have internal steel springs like an Army dagger and hilt fittings that are plated pot metal. These sometimes are thought to be the Administrative Navy dagger because the plate is thin and often wears off to reveal a silver color ( steel and pot metal).


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#117565 09/30/2007 12:08 AM
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Sorry. I forgot about the steel.....(I have owned a few) I should have said brass scabbards.

#117566 09/30/2007 04:51 PM
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If anyone is interested, I am going to bring my Post War WPP to the MAX. I will be there From Wed night to Sat night and would be happy to show it to anyone interested.
Just send me a PM
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Scott


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