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#112037 02/22/2007 11:27 PM
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It's KLAAS. Are the parts correct. Supposedly the grip is the core of this type of Dagger. Thank you

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#112043 02/23/2007 02:00 AM
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The scabbard bands should have an astric (*) on the non ring side. Also, I would like to see the TM.

Looks like a nice dagger to me.

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#112044 02/23/2007 02:25 AM
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Hello Jim, The astric is on the bands. I'll post pictures of the TM. Thanks.

#112045 02/23/2007 10:34 AM
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Here is the picture. Is the pomel correct on this piece? When I screw it on, the grip feels a little loose.

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#112046 02/23/2007 03:38 PM
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Please keep in mind I am only filling in while the experts are at the SOS.

Your dagger looks totally correct to me. I half way suspect that until you took it apart, it had been un touched.

As to the grip. There is usually some shrinkage to the leather washer which causes the grips to be a little loose. I do not recommend trying to tighten the grip as you might strip something.

Past that, this looks really good.

But, please keep in mind that many people do not consider this to be a Railway dagger, but rather an army dagger where the paint has come off the grip. This, of course, makes any discussion of hangers for this model, mute.

Just my opinion,

Jim

#112047 02/26/2007 03:15 PM
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Can someone please post pictures of their 1st railways? Thanks

#112048 02/27/2007 03:35 PM
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Is it a 1st railways or a Herr? Should I keep or return it? Thanks

#112049 02/27/2007 04:49 PM
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that appears to be an Alcoso crossguard,will it attract a magnet? I havent heard of Klaas using Alcoso parts? Kevin.


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#112050 02/27/2007 07:26 PM
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#4 Hope this is some help.My 1st R.R. has no traces of white on the grip(maybe it was cleaned good)bought 20 +yrs ago when this was the norm for a "1 st R.R." I don't know if Klass was an in-house mfg of all parts.TW Army book states they did use different mfg. guards on there Armys.

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#112054 02/27/2007 07:50 PM
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Klaas is the correct and only* maker of these whatever they may be.
*I found this out the hard way a couple of years ago.
Jim

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FYI
The black Klaas grips are a few millimeters longer than the other Klaas grips.


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#112056 02/27/2007 11:23 PM
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The Museum of the 82nd Airborne Division at Ft Bragg has a black grip Army/ First Rail made by Tiger.

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Not only in the Museum, I have a first rail by Tiger and one is shown in Johnson's Volume 6.

#112058 02/28/2007 01:09 AM
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I'm with Kevin on this one. IMHO this is the 3rd type Alcoso crossguard. In my experience Klaas did not use Alcoso parts but who knows I am always learning...

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Dave:
According to your "Mentor" "If it ain't a Klaas it ain't no good"! Smile The Pima Air Museum here in Tucson has a 2nd Model Luft on display with Army hangers. Roll Eyes Jon Shallcross is right about the grip length from what Wittmann told me.
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Yes Jim, Klaas army grips in general, not just 1st rails, are a wee bit longer than other grips.

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Paul,

Your right about Klaas army grips being a hair longer than some makers but the black Klaas grips are longer then Klaas army grips.


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