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A group of Panzer etched blades. Photo # 1 Zur Efinnerung an meine Dienftzeit beim Panzer Regt. 1 Erfurt. by ROBERT KLAAS
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Photo #3 Zur Erinnerung and meine Dienstzeit beim Panzer-Regiment 3. Reverse side stamped man with sledge.
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Photo #5 Stamped trade mark.
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Photo #6 Fur Erinnerung an mein Dieltzeit beim Panzer - Regiment 4 Schweinfurt. Stamped with Puma trade Mark Solingen
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Photo #8 Single Etch; Eickhorn Panzer tank etch. Number 3222. I know those who have this blade will want to check the etching with the one they have. The Wayne H. Techet book has some excellent large photos on pages 113 and 128 and 129. He shows and explains some minor differences in the ones shown on page 129 stating template changes.
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photo #9 Eickhorn Stamped trade mark
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Photo # 10. Blade close up.
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Photo #11 Tank and death skull close up.
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Photo # 12 This bayonet was posted earlier on the BCN. Double skull and cross bone etching with Panzer Regt. 7. Stamped both sides by TIGER
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Photo #13 Full view of bayonet Panzer Regt 7.
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Photo #14 Close up of Panzer Regt.7
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Photo # 15 Light cannon etch. ZUR ERINNERUNG AN MEINE DIENSTZEIT.
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Photo #16 Reverse side. PANZER ABW.ABT 24 Pack logo.
I hope you enoyed the Panzer etches. Let me know if you want to see and more of the Panzer unit blades.
Thanks for looking, Sincerely, HUBERTUS
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Well guys, Ralph has done it again. He has made us realize the futility of collecting these things. He already has them all!
Ralph, I especially like the Pack Panzer Abwehr Abteilung 24. Terrific piece....
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KS 98 nuts and more especially those ks98 folks who love SS marked stuff. If original that is the 10,000.00 question! I posted these pics for Richard Kuchta so your comments are appreciated! Are they good or bad??
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Hmm...wonderful pieces but I am not knowledgeable enough to tell their authentity. Somehow the knot on pic #13 does not look good to me. Keith
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Ralph
OK, just how long did it take you to assemble this collection.
Again, nice bayonets. The Panzer Regt. 7 is very interesting. I don't know what the BCN opinion was but for what its worth I like it. I like the Ges Gesch at bottom of the etch. It just shows that if you had money you could get anything you wanted.
The Richard Kuchta collection is also very interesting. The pommel engravings were not done at the factory since they were etched not engraved. That said it doesn't mean it wasn't period done. There will always be controversy over these. One of my guide lines in purchasing any item is, will I be able to sell it easily. Oh I may have a couple items that fall out of the norm but I like them, and that is what it's all about.
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John,
Richard's bayonet has some real immediate red flags for me.
The blade is engraved and not etched. Eickhorn etched blades for a living, why not etch this bayonet instead of engrave it? The pommel is engraved and not etched. Same question. In fact, the engraved pommel is a cartoonish rendition of the standard Eickhorn pommel etch with an added SS signal flag that did not exist in real life. This is an Eickhorn proprietary design. I could go on and on, but those are the two things that spring immediately to mind from the photographs.
I would not buy this bayonet for my collection.
George
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Hubertus, well THAT is a nice and valuable collection of panzer and panzer related etched bajonets. Thank yoz for showing them. Please post more of them, they are wonderful and in condition to appreciate.
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I’m afraid that I have to agree with George as regards Richard’s bayonet, and would have to include the attached belt frog as well. At a show recently I came across a Spanish M1943 with a German frog attached (imitating a 98K) that was “SS” marked. But differently using stamps instead of engraving. The frog was just as phony as the bayonet - being a conglomeration of individual hand stamps that did not match wear patterns. FP
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KS SS98 Bayonets
John, Thank you very much for posting the bayonet pictures for me and the Forum.As I was looking at the SS combat bayonets in the person's collection, he stated that he also had some dress bayonets. I know SS combat bayonets; however, these bayonets exhibit some characteristics that I have not seen before. I think that there was a KS98 Bayonet on the Forum that also had the SS ID number engraved on the tang between the grips. At the time I commented that I felt that the SS Bayonet was not correct. Now I am not sure. The SS marked bayonet with the logo on he blade came from a very old and noted collection. Please provide your opinions and expertise so that we can determine if the bayonets are original.
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"Wheeler states in his book" yes ORPO quit quoting Wheeler! :-)
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SS MARKED FROG FOR KS SS BAYONET
Frogprince, You are the expert on bayonet frogs. Can you provide more details as to what is not correct with the frog. I have always had problems with the runes in a circle on a bayonet frog.
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Hi Richard,
Yes, I did state that Eickhorn offered custom engraving on the pommel. It is priced out in the Kundendienst as I recall. This pommel engraving was normally initials, unit designations, and such. The same type of nicely engraved initials offered on the langets of swords, etc. I just can't see why Eickhorn, who already had this particular KS98 pommel in stock, would make such a poor rendition of their own pommel. The quality of the engraving is not very good, IMHO.
I just cannot justify in my mind why Eickhorn would engrave this bayonet when they already had blade and pommel etching that looked much better than this. If it was privately done, it would not only violate Eickhorn's patent rights but would be more costly to pay someone who did such a poor job. All the etching seems over the top and concocted to me. Just an educated guess though.
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George,
I have to agree with you as to why would they engrave the byonet if they could etch it. Also the quality of the engraving is not that good. Since I have not viewed any of Eickhorns pommel engravings, my opinion is just that. George, thanks for your input.
Richard Kuchta
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