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George,

Thats a hick of a nice Forestry set, what year do you put on the visor. Its so well made compared to the later stuff. I've picked up a few more items I'll post. Did you get to look at the back of the boards?

Does the owner have any photo's of the orig owner wearing the outfit.

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Close up view of the wreath and Wappen.

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Pat,

I think the uniform is probably from the 1950s. I would expect a very early uniform cap to have an embroidered tri color cockade in the cap wreath, so I suspect that the cap may be from the 1960s since it has the metal Wappen with the DDR emblem. The underlayment on the shoulder boards is dark green velvet. Just like the NS Zeit and West German board backing. Again, a higher quality private purchase pair of boards. I don't know if he has any photos of the uniform in wear or not.

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Pat,

Bernd Ostermann gave me a photo of his DDR Forestry uniform to post. This is the early Fliegerbluse style tunic that carried over from the 1938 Forestry regulations promulgated by Göring as Chief Förstmeister. This particular tunic belonged to a retired forester who managed Göring's old estate (which reverted to the DDR after 1945) and was used by Erich Honecker until the fall of East Germany. A uniform with complete provinance.

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Notice that this cap has the early embroidered aluminum wreath that completely surrounds the DDR Wappen. The green cap has a dark green band and dark green piping.

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By the way I don't own a female torso I had but the tunic just didn't seem to fit my male torso that well, so I had to stuff it with tissue. hahaha

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George,

Just a super set-up, I sure wouldn't mind adding it to my collection.

I'm posting my new Female WasserWirtchaft tunic. The farb on the boards is red which meant she was assigned to Water supply and waste water treatment.

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View of the rain pattern camo field gear utilized by the police. The pack and shelter half are also MdI marked. The blanket straps are grey rubberized material but they also came in grey webbing like the belt and assault harness.

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View of the rain pattern pack and assault harness.

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I thought I would add a grey piped Strafvollzug uniform to this thread. The Strafvollzug were the prison police who were correctional officers in the DDR. This is a standard NCO tunic in blue with grey piping and collar tab and shoulder board underlay.

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Closeup view of the grey backed insignia for the Strafvollzug.

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Here is a nice set of Polizei Strichtarn camouflage that is MdI marked and dated 1989. This uniform shows the subdued shoulderboards for a 2nd year student at the Police Officer Academy. The raindrop camo pattern was used by both the military and the police and about the only discernible difference are the markings. The grey webgear was also used by both the military and the police.

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View of the subdued police shoulder boards worn on camo uniforms. Also notice the grey plastic buttons that are utilized on these uniforms.

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Here is my light weight summer Civil Defense tunic. The wear to the cuff title seems to correspond to that seen on the tunic.

The shoulder boards have the purple waffenfarbe.. they are not Fire Police Boards. I have never seen boards like these. I thought that the Civil Defense used boards simular to those used by the military(except the waffenfarbe is violet), instead of the police.

What are your thoughts?

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And another tunic with a different patch

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Patrick and OPRO,

You guys have some mindblowing stuff.

Here are a few of my DDR tunics to add to the thread. The first photo consists of Environmental Police and Harbor Police uniforms.

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George,

Thanks for you kind compliments. The shoulderboards on the Civil tunic do have a back center on the obverse.

What is the controversy on the Civil Boards? I have not heard this before.

On the EM pilot's tunic, the Air Force boards were already on them when I got it, yet I thought that they looked funny. I would have figured the they would have at least made a dark blue body on the boards if they were to be used on that uniform. I will find some police NCO/EM boards and replace them.

Is there a thread dedicated to the Border Guard? I have many tunics I would love to share. I am especially proud of my Border Guard Aviation uniforms.

It would be great if we had a post war Germany section to devote this wonderful portion of history!

What are your thoughts on the mint green tunic?

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Here is a closeup of the cuff title!

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And another for a Correctional Officer(NCO)

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I almost forgot to post the visors for the Correctional and Fire Police uniforms

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TRAPO NCO

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Also, I have this tunic... I have no idea what police organization it belongs to.

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I did not know whether to classify Stasi as Police of Miltary, so I will post them anyway.

Officer

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Another photo of a General wearing the lime green tunic at a graduation for the VP Offizerschule. Notice no one else is wearing one. Wink

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With a couple of different shoulder patches

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I will start a thread on the Grenzschutz.

Thank you for your expertice and for posting those photos. I especially like the commissioning photo!!!

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Paul,

Some people think that these boards are proper for the Civil Defense because of the Malino colored piping but I have not seen any regulations for them for other than Feuerwehr.

You can use standard blue Transportpolizei NCO boards for your pilot tunic to be correct.

Why don't you just start a thread on the Grenztruppen uniforms? I think they rolled the postwar european forum into the misc. forum. If Dave does not mind, you could start a thread here.

Your mint green tunic is a summer dress style Uniformjacke for Volkspolizei Officers. They were generally worn by high ranking officers and you don't see a lot of photos of them in wear. They are fairly hard to come by as collector's items in the US. Here is another example for a Colonel.

George

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Here is a uniform for the Fire Police.

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Next up are some TRAPO aviation tunics. Officer

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Jiri,

Thanks for the sharp eye! You are correct. I had not noticed the shoulder boards are the early style and that this WSP tunic should have the later style NCO boards. The tunic came with these boards on it, but I will change them out to the proper later ones today.

Too many uniforms to keep up with. Here is another early WSP uniform that is dated to the first quarter of 1980. Notice it is not piped in green around the collar. The sleeves are also lined with striped ticking rather than the solid color dederon normally found.

George

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This is the bulk of my DDR police tunics. Was the Grenschutz considered to be police or military?

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One more WSP tunic. This is the Ausgangsuniform that was specified for the Wasserschutz- und Hafenpolizei. The polizeigrau Ausgangsjacke was worn by the Feuerwehr, Strafvollzug, Transport, Wasserschutz- und Hafenpolizei; while the schiffgrün Ausgangsjacke was worn by the regular "green" VP. This Ausgangsjacke has green piping, therefore could have only been worn by the Wasserschutzpolizei as it does not have a Hafenpolizei sleeveband.

George

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Here are a couple TRAPO Officers

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Barracks Police

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Here is my example for the Factory Guard Police

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The next couple of uniforms are representatives from the Customs Police.

Officers:

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Here is a photo of the tunic in wear by a General Officer.

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Here are some EM and NCO examples

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Enlisted ranking

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Enlisted

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