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Rick, thats a marvelous collection!!..Thanks for showing them. Are any of them solid silver? Can't make out #14,,whats if for? , G.
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Rick very nice collection.I'm always amazed at special collections like this that pop-up from our members.Thanks
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My kudos as well. Quite a variety of awards from flying to shooting to generic.
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Nice collection Rick. I'm not really into Non portables, but do enjoy seeing the variety available.
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Rick, Super awards, I have never seen so many in one collection before, I think #14 is one of these, a Gau Nordsee Shooting award.
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Hi Rick
Is your award the same as this
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Thanks Guys...I try to pick one up at every MAX or SOS that i go to, they are getting tough to come by and i only see them at the bigger shows but the varity is endless and IMHO they are undervalued. Gary yes its the same as yours only my finish has come off mine (didnt realize it until i got it home and looked it over closer). G none of mine are solid silver (i wish).
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Thank you both for sharing your awards. I am a bit torn between #6 and #10 as to my personal favorite. They are all quite intriguing and always most interesting to me. WOW, (had to say it) . Thanks, --dj--Joe
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Hello, Beautiful items Rick. The 6the medallion you show(Dem Sieger)what is on the reverse if i may ask? I have the same item...but unfortunately it is not cased. I agree that the variety is endless with these items which makes collecting them fascinating also. I used to pick up items like this uncased but nowadays hesitate to buy them unless they are in their cases. It seems to me that in the past two or three years the prices on these items have skyrocketed. I wonder whether it's because with the growing scarcity of original combat badges etc collectors are turning towards these type of items to buy. Also can I get an idea as to how much(roughly)those NSFK cased items are going for? Again beautiful stuff. Duzig(Bill)
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Bill..I will try and post photos of the backs next week, im suppose to be on my way to North Carolina today.As for the NSFK awards, at the last SOS there was a fellow that had about 5 or 6 different ones and they averaged about 500.00 apiece (cased), i think i have seen about 10 different NSFK ones an im sure there are more. The most i have ever paid for one (no.1) was 625.00 but its also the biggest one i have and i think its bronze.If i was ever to start over collecting i think this is the field i would pick, there isnt alot of information out there about them and i have seen them from 150.00 to 800.00 (cased) with the average around 300-400.
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Hello again, Rick thanks much for your reply. They are certainly beautiful pieces and if they are in the 3 and 4 hundred dollar range that is quite acceptable and reasonable i think. I like these non portable items and would buy these over combat badges and the like any day of the week. They are like pieces of art in my opinion. Duzig(Bill)
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Earl, Your number 7 - the Berlin SA piece; I saw a cased gold one at the 1999 or 2000 MAX in Pittsburg. Evidently there must have been bronze, silver & gold awarded. The guy's (I've forgotten who it was) asking price was $900. Beautiful but expensive. The reason I remember it is because I have a silver one like yours. Beautiful collection....
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Hello again all, Since we are showing non portable items I figured I'd show a few of mine. The first is an Honor plaque for horse breeding. The second one is the fuhrer plaque,according to Angolia it was an officially recognized award given mostly to middle ranking political and state officials for special achievement. The last item I post is not a plaque or medallion per se but certainly is non portable. It is about 10 inches square,made out of slate or limestone(?)that has been polished engraved and colored and weighs approximately 13 lbs. Thanks for taking a look. Duzig(Bill)
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Fuhrer plaque,this plaque was removed from the safe in the Commandants office,administration building at Furth airport by a member of the 42nd division in April 1945 as the building was still burning
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Here is the last item I show, given for some sort of sports competition. Thanks for taking a look. Duzig(Bill)
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Bill..The horse breeding one is a sweetheart!
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Hello, Rick thanks for the comment and as you stated the variety of these items is endless and to me they are almost like a work of art,extremely well done and beautiful pieces. I'm surprised more people don't collect them(not that I'm complaining about it) as compared to other german militaria. Again beautiful items you have & would love to see more if you have them. It would be nice to see a reference book made available about these pieces. Duzig(Bill)
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I´ve only two. Unfortunatly not cased. regards Florian
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Nice table medals guys. Here is one of my police table medals to go along with yours. This one is for the München Machine Gun Unit of the Bavarian Landespolizei.
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Reverse view showing the unit designation. This Landespolizei table medal is 800 silver.
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here are three i picked up at the Max.
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Very nice John. Are the last three Alach?
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Hi Eric,
The last two are Allach and both are cased.
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Mr. Pepera, thank you for bringing this thread back and for these interesting non portables you show!
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These are all beautiful looking pieces. For what reasons were they awarded, or were they available for purchase as collector pieces as well as awards?
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Gentlemen,
Thanks for starting and adding to this wonderful thread, it's really nice to see these works of art. Kudos to you all!
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Very nice non-portables everyone. I especially enjoyed your Reichsnährstand one Rick and Duzig's for horses...
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Here are a couple more i picked up.These things are additive.
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Very nice items. That first SS one---WOW!!!
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My first non portable, and my favorite from my collection. Obverse. --dj--Joe
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Nice one Joe...What was it for?
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Rick, I'm not sure! I've had it for some time but can not nail it down. Has something to do with buildings, possibly construction or architecture, investigation and or research. Congrats on those two latest awards you posted! --dj--Joe
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Hello, Really beautiful items guys. Almost like works of art as far as I"m concerned. Absolutely beautiful stuff. Duzig(Bill)
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Ran across this thread searching for something else and thought it well worth bringing back around for another view.
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Here is an interesting cased non-portable award for qualification of a Police Dog named "Aster".
Notice the Polizei Verein logo making up the first letter in the description.
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Here is one I have...it's an SA Youth Horse Plaque/Table Medal for Service and Donations.
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Slightly adjusted. Very nice!
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Hello, Again guys, beautiful non portables you have. I’d like to show a few that I’ve picked up lately. First up is a NSFK cased medallion for a North East German competition in sightseeing. Next is a plaque for a 1937 flight by Motorgruppe Schlesein around upper Silesia. The next one is for an endurance test drive by the Berlin Brandenburg DDAC The last one I show for now is one I have not seen for sale before & other than an article I found in an academic journal cannot find out anything else about it. I have attached relevant part of the article relating to the medallion. I am sorry for the length of the information regarding it. If anyone can tell me anything else about it or has one I’d love to see it also. It is quite a heavy item for it’s size, weighing in at just under 7 ounces and it’s diameter is roughly 2 ½ inches. Here is an excerpt from the article mentioning this medallion: “In May 1938, Filippo Sgarlata minted a medallion in honor of Adolf Hitler’s state visit to Rome, Naples, and Florence. Its theme is triumph over a monstrous foe. On one side, a Winged Victory carries a swastika and a fascio littorio in her arms, flanked by the inscription Vis Unita Fortior (Power is Strengthened by Union). On the obverse, Hercules battles the three-headed dog, Cerberus. The capture of the Hellhound Cerberus, who guarded the gates of Hades, was the twelfth and most arduous task assigned to Hercules by Eurystheus. According to the myth, Hercules wrestled the dog, with its lion’s claws and serpents tail, into submission and dragged it out of Hades. Here, the Axis battles the forces of hell. Fascism’s enemy is a supernatural monster associated with the fires of hell. Cerberus is a hybrid of multiple animals and a monstrous freak of nature. But, fear not, the medallion guarantees, the Winged Victory of one side will triumph in the Herculean battle with the demons of Hell on the flip side. This representation of the enemy, targeted at an elite audience of party faithful, depends upon classical mythology and an aesthetic of Romanita` (Romaness). Romanita`, in fascist ideology and culture, was the celebration and emulation of the Roman Empire and the explicit connection between it and the fascist empire.45 As Rome had defeated the barbarians, so would its modern-day equivalent, fascist Italy.†Glad to see that this thread has been resurrected. I just love these non- portable items, the variety and quality of them are always nice to see.
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ORPO, Fischer, Duzig. Nice additions. Many thanks for sharing. Bill, I performed a quick search but found I was just tracking sites you have already visited. Vis Unita Fortior - United Strength is Stronger. --dj--Joe
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Joe, thank you for your reply and yes other than the sites you also found I haven't found any other info about this item. Haven't been able to find one that has been for sale lately either. And again, beautiful items everyone has to show. Love seeing all of them. Bill
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Some great pieces guys. Non portables aren't something that I have I'm afraid.....
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Here is another non-portable plaque for fencing. Given at the Police School.
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Here are a few more plaques I’ve picked up over the years First is a plaque for a endurance test drive in Brandenburg on June 21 1936 Diameter of the plaque is 3 inches and the maker is Rob Neff, Berlin. Next is a medallion for the National Socialist Student League Lower Saxony Fencing Association. I don’t think I’ve seen too many non-portable items for the Student league so glad to see any others too. Glad to see any non -portable items in general. Here’s an item I’ve had for a few years that I obtained from another collector. The profile of Hitler on the front, and on the reverse a depiction of a tree with branches growing from it and on the disc a rising sun & swastika. The imagery of the tree with branches & the swastika rising with sun rays would I guess be associated with the rebirth of Germany under National Socialism. This item is made of bronze and including the marble base is about 5 inches high. I had only seen one other like this and that was years ago in Manion’s. Thanks for taking a look and always glad to see other plaques and non-portables. Always an endless variety of them and all interesting. Bill
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Cool stuff, Bill. Thanks for showing.
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Very nice pieces Bill. I must admit that I don't recall seeing a Studentenbund plaque before. What size is it? Is the enamal badge the standard members badge size?
I love the DDAC & NSKK plaques & would have liked to collect them, but there are so many of them so I never bothered to do so.
Thanks for sharing them, sorry that I do not have any non portables to show.
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Hello Dave & Don, thanks for your comments. I was just going thru this thread again and some fantastic stuff people have shown. Don, I didn’t think I had seen to many others so thanks for confirming that thought. The plaque itself is only 2 ¼ inches in diameter and the studentenbund insignia is 1 “x ½ inch. Yes, it seems like there is an endless amount of not only DDAC and NSKK plaques but for so many other organizations in general. I used to wonder why there wasn’t a book out specifically dealing with these items but now can see why it would be an endless job trying to classify and list all of them. It’s funny but one always hears that art during the Nazi period was anti modernistic and other than classical styles were frowned upon but if you look at many of the designs of these items & also tinnies, they are, I guess what I would call art-deco style, how the style of the eagle & lettering & how it is incorporated into the design of the item and the setup of the pieces in general. Knowing nothing about art basically my use of the term art-deco may be incorrect but hopefully you know what I am trying to say. I hope no one is tired of me posting some items & hope you don't mind if I post others. Bill
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Bill, Keep them coming. I for one very much enjoy seeing what you have Don
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Yes please,,I too enjoy seeing them especially NSKK.. some of the shield type with 2 holes in them I'm pretty sure they meant to be put on a radiator grill or motorcycle!
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Don & Gaspare thanks again for your comments. I'm sure that I've shown these on other forums so sorry if most have seen these before. Here is an item that apparently is somewhat controversial. Some think they are original and some think they are not. Personally, I think these are original pieces and glad to have acquired it. Next few are also DDAC plaques I’m sorry I didn’t take German in high school so all my translations I get from google translate. If my translations are incorrect please let me know, thanks. First one on left is for a DDAC gau rating(?) for Hochland. I would imagine rating in this instance might be qualifying perhaps. As I say please correct my understanding of the terms if possible. Next one is a members plaque for the DDAC, would be attached to a car grill I believe Third one is also for the DDAC In recognition of sporting achievements In the olympic year 1936 Dedicated by the DDAC Gau Bayer. Eastmark
Lastly, for now I show two Amateur Boxing medallions I have. If I remember correctly they are both made by H. Aurich Dresden. I just love the look of these and again, I don’t think these are seen that often. Don, I believe you have said you have a few of these and also the smaller pins for some events of this type? Also Don, was Aurich the only maker of the plaques? I've seen pictures of your smaller pins but I don't remember who made them either actually.
Also if I may, the DDAC physicians plaque which would be on a car grill, any idea what they go for? There is one for sale on a site, with a little enamel damage, price being asked is close to 300, not sure if that’s a good price for one with a little damage or what. I do always prefer to buy items with no damage but again, not sure of value & not seen too often I think. Whether any ideas on value or not, thank you all for taking a look at my items. Bill
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Bill,,,those are fabulous!!!
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Nice stuff guys. Some I've not seen before,
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Gaspare, thanks again for your comments, yes, the boxing one's are really sharp. I hope others post more of their stuff, always like to see new items. thanks again Bill
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Bill,
Thank you for posting these, especially the Boxing ones. I had totally forgotten that I had some of these, well, not forgotten, but for some reason I didn't think of them as non-portables, which of course they are. I have about 10 of these (I don't yet have the Essen one, you lucky thing).....
I can post mine here if you wish, but I do not want to flood the thread if you feel they they warrent a thread of their own..... What do you guys think, here or a fresh thread on Boxing plaques & badges?
In answer to you question Bill, yes, H. Aurich was the sole manufacturer of these & the pins, see below for the mark from one of mine.
Don
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I will let you gents decide. Should you opt for a thread of their own, the next time I am alert and functional I could add a link connecting the topics.
Bill, great items. Good sharp images.
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Thanks again Don & Joe. Wow, 10 of them, incredible. I was happy to find these two. I always keep my eyes open and hopefully will acquire a few more. I I'd love to see the ones you have Don, and I don't care whether it's in this thread or another as long as we get to see them LOL. Bill
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Actually, I think your boxing medals deserve a thread of their own. It also makes it easier to find info on them when doing a search.
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Actually, I think your boxing medals deserve a thread of their own. It also makes it easier to find info on them when doing a search. OK, a new thread it will be, see you there hopefully....
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As you know, I am not a big non-portables collector, but the other day I had the chance to pick this piece up. I was tempted as I have the enamel badge for the event.... The Deutscher Versuchsanstalt für Handfeuerwaffen Berlin-Wannsee 1938.
The reverse is totally unmarked so will not take up space posting it.
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And for the curious, here is the enamel badge. The more observant amongst you may recognise the design as it was the basis of the well known fake/fantasy Ostpreussen badge.
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Just for completeness as I brought it up, here is the fake/fantasy.... I have never seen any evidence that a badge of this exact design existed during the period...
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Don, thank you for posting the enamel badge and the non-portable award. Two quality pieces. A good reference on the false badge also.
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