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#107137 12/01/2005 11:36 PM
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Well since Robert is showing off his new goodies from Germany, which by the way are very nice, I thought I would show off my new visorcap. It is an unissued cap in mint condition with the price tag still attached, gotta love that Cool

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#107138 12/01/2005 11:39 PM
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side veiw

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#107139 12/01/2005 11:40 PM
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inside

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#107140 12/01/2005 11:41 PM
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price tag, I wish I only had to pay that much for it.

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#107141 12/01/2005 11:42 PM
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insignia is mint,just as the rest of the cap.

Totenkopf is a Zimmerman

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#107142 12/01/2005 11:43 PM
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Eagle m1 167 and no I did not take them off.

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#107143 12/02/2005 01:58 AM
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Excellent score Kevin,a real find to treasure.

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All hail colleague Finley's coup de main. This cap is a doppelgaenger for the piece on the cover of the Wilkins book. It is an astonishing, once in two decades kind of thing. Other pieces aspire to this standard, but only this piece reaches it, in fact. Bravo, Kevin. Let those in search of something like it save these images and ponder them in their historical brilliance, made all the more so by the dullness and murk of all the ordinary images of fuzzy fakes and their spiritual smog.

#107145 12/02/2005 04:28 AM
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Stupendous piece of headgear! But two questions: how common on such caps for makers to leave off the sweat shield and maker's name/logo; and what do the numbers on the clip-on price tag mean?

Is this German-made cap, or, judging by the tag's decoration, foreign-made in the German style for an officer of, say, "Nordland?"
And what's the period? - looks mid-war, yes?
Thanks!

#107146 12/02/2005 05:03 AM
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Actually it is not that common for caps not to have a sweatshield, but this one doesn't. As for the makers name or logo it is actually "textbook" for these regulation caps to be without any markings but the size. I am quite sure it is a German made cap circa probably 1944. The tag is actually sewn to the sweatband and I would guess the numbers are inventory numbers or stock numbers and of course the price of 8/50 marks.

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WOW! Brilliant example.... I agree it is late war produced around 1044.
Thanks for showing us Wink

#107148 12/02/2005 11:35 AM
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Superb!


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#107149 12/02/2005 01:35 PM
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Very nice, Very real, and very rare. I am field-grey with envy...


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#107150 12/02/2005 03:50 PM
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Pricing, if noted on the tag, would be preceded with the letters "RM" not "MK".

John

#107151 12/02/2005 04:56 PM
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Saw this one on the other forum and I was blown away, it's stunning!

Nice one Kevin, any chance you could take a photo of the stitching holding the sweatband on, it looks rather different to the norm.

Cheers
Ben

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WOW WOW Eek Eek EekAND WITH A MATCH SKULL/EAGLE...RZM499-41 OR 42 SILVERPAINTED I LOVE IT.CONGRAT Smile

#107153 12/02/2005 05:50 PM
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A GOOD FRIEND OFF MY HAVE THE TWIN CAP TO YOURS.AND IN THE SAME MINT CONDITION AND HE HAVE ALSO THE REST OF THE UNIFORM FROM A NORWEGIAN UNTERSTURMFUHRER.MY FRIEND WHO ALSO IS A MEMBER OFF THIS FORUM WILL POST A PIC OFF THE CAP LATER. Big Grin

#107154 12/02/2005 06:50 PM
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Kevin-
A wonderful find. Was this vet aquired or found recently in Europe?
Bob


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#107155 12/02/2005 10:00 PM
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This is a visor where I have to fasten my seat belts in front of my PC.
I think you can count it on one hand who many in this condition are out, just stunning.
When I compare the actual dealer prices for such pieces (what cannot compared to this one)then this one has to get a special price tag.

Thanks for sharing it Kevin!

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One like this is IMO priceless, unworn, unused and original.Even the insignias are unblemished by age.A real classic and Kevin should keep it for his lifetime because another will never come along.

#107157 12/02/2005 10:07 PM
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Thanks guys , It is a once in a lifetime visor. I myself have never seen another is this condition. Bob , The story behind this is that it was brought home by a german soldier after the war with alot of other things and recently a guy in MD bought part of this collection and this was in it. It is a little bent out of shape as he said it was stuffed in a drawer with some other caps. And for Ben here are some pics as you requsted.
Kevin

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#107158 12/02/2005 10:09 PM
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Another shot

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#107159 12/02/2005 10:10 PM
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The underside of the visor has crosshatching but it is very light and you can't see it in pics.

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#107160 12/02/2005 10:13 PM
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Both the eagle and the skull are not pinned through the lining.Which doesn't really mean anything in particular other than the lining has no holes in it Big Grin

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#107161 12/02/2005 10:13 PM
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Side buttons are sewn on.

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#107162 12/02/2005 10:14 PM
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One more.

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#107163 12/02/2005 10:25 PM
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Notice how the interior of this cap is rendered versus so many of the grey caps we see there that are plainly re-made. Once more, dear Kevin, a wonderful coup for you and we partake of your special Sammlerglueck in this case. I repeat: those gazing at these pictures would do well to save them for a rainy day as a means of more acute analysis, becuase one seldom sees the pristine evidence of the past in such a form. It is so refreshing in contrast to all piles of Dreck.

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just compare this outstanding quality, colours & liner to some offered visors from one dealer Roll Eyes

#107165 12/02/2005 11:26 PM
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Here a shot of the cap in better lighting.

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#107166 12/03/2005 12:12 AM
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Beautiful cap!

Here is a "Danmark" cufftitle from my collection with a similar tag attached.

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#107167 12/03/2005 12:27 AM
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I am flabbergasted... who could imagine a cap in such condition. What a great score!


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#107168 12/03/2005 12:52 AM
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Thanks again Kevin!

So I may be correct in thinking "German-made cap for the Norwegian Waffen-SS market? Also I'd still like to know what the tag markings are; i.e., "wa" - since this can't be "Waffen Amt" mark as used on firearms and field gear. Can it? Cheers.

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One should note that a Norwegian colleague on the Helmet section hierunter has the twin to Kevin's new cap, as it turns out. The world is a smaller place via the wonders of microelectronics and we can peer more deeply into the treasure caves of collector-dom. I imagine this cap at hand of Kevin's may have been made for the Kleiderkasse SS in one of the SS economic enterprises, actually. Whether this kind of cap was exclusively employed in the Nordic lands I should rather doubt. If one consults Mollo's vol. 6, you shall discover that the Kleiderkasse SS had a branch in Oslo as it did throughout Nazi Europe of the New Order.

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MY FRIEND JONNI VISOR Smile

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#107172 12/03/2005 02:23 AM
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Man That one is for sure the twin brother to mine. Where was your friend Jonnis cap obtained?
Very nice indeed

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THE CAP AND UNIFORMS+++++ALOT OFF GREAT STUFF WAS OVERHANDEDTO HIM BY A WELLKNOWN NORWEGIAN VOLUNTEER SmileLUCKY LUCKY.

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Yes Jonni`s collection is of great w-ss items.
Thanks! And Prorege1 your Danmark cufftitle is one of the rarer ones...and with pricetag on!

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Kevin, many thanks for posting those pics of the interior construction, very interesting. Quite unusual to see a strip of piping between the s-band and the cap itself and
it does seem that the other cap posted is constructed is exactly the same manor, wonderful!

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Nice one Kevin Cool...Congrats


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