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for sale NSKK with chain
no chips ,lot of crossgrain
judge condition by photos
asked price $ 4890.00

shipping and insurance not inclus
paypal only
best regards kaiser
[email protected]

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Woaaaaaaaaaaaaa, what a beauty !
Would be very difficult to upgrade this one.

Im a simple person - so i will ask a simple question. How come an early makers mark blade has a handle with a later aluminium eagle?

After having taken a closer look at the dagger, it seems to me that the crossguards are the plated types and that the eagle is indeed aluminum.
If so, that's a big concern.

Richard, call me !
You got my home phone number.

Sturmbrigade, you are not a "simple person" and your observation is quite appropriate.

I saw that last night and wondered how long it would take someone to ask.

I would want to see it in person, but think the blade is the part that does not fit with the rest of the dagger.

Meanwhile I am moving this to the SA Dagger forum so eveyone can participate.

Dave

So with a replaced blade, how much does that affect the price as whole?

The price of the blade, or more taking the item as a semi-parts piece?

Those crossguards dont exhibit typical Pack features ie fat and flat So think Dave H is correct about the blade being swapped

I have spoken to Richard this morning and I told him about some of the concerns that I had.
I have no doubt that the Chained NSKK is 100% original. I also have no doubt that the grip, crossguards and eagle are 100% original.
There's also no doubt that the blade is geniune.
This has to be one of the best conditioned NSKK that I have ever seen.
Now, what is the problem ? Well, it is quite obvious that the blade does not belong to that hilt.
The blade has been replaced with an early maker marked.
If the blade had been an RZM type, it would have been a textbook original.

What's the value ? IMO it still has a lot of value as it is a simple matter to replace the blade with a proper RZM type.
Even simplier, would be to put an untouched maker marked or RZM dagger into the scabbard, and you would have then a minty Chained NSKK worth $ 5000 and up.
The value wouldn't be affected all that much as the most important part of this dagger is obviously the Chained scabbard.

" I'm new in the hobby and have been collecting for only a couple of years now.
I bought this dagger from Bernie Brule about 3 years ago. At the time, I called my friend Patrice and asked him if he knew someone that would have a Chained NSKK for sell.
Patrice told me that his friend Bernie Brule was selling most of his collection and that I should contact him.
Bernie sent me the dagger directly to me and it has been sitting in my collection since then.
I didn't know about the fact that the blade had been replaced and that I had bought a possible "part dagger".
I never would have bought this dagger if I would have known about the controversy.
Like I said, I'm very new to the hobby and I have still much to learn. This is why, I only buy my daggers from respected collectors/dealers on GDC.
I never would buy such a dagger from unknown sources, too much at risk.

I'm just very surprised that such an obvious mistmatched could've gone unoticed.
Anyway, I'm now caught with a "part dagger" and I don't know what to do with it.

Any suggestions ?

Thank you !
kaiser

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Any suggestions ?

Thank you !
kaiser

Yes i have.

The seller should refund you some $ "if" he know the background of this dagger you buy from him. ( you have to ask him)

That is a fair deal in the collector community today.
Anyway...this is my own opinions since you ask Kaiser.

The collector world is "small" and the best is to fix up, if something goes wrong

Regards Lh 600

I would not count refounding after three years. I think You should not to be worry. Finding correct RZM Eickhorn blade would not take to long....

Look for blade with markings like this...

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Originally posted by Gottlieb:
I think You should not to be worry. Finding correct RZM Eickhorn blade would not take to long....

Yes agree...but the dagger is still a partknife if you change the blade.

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Yes agree...but the dagger is still a partknife if you change the blade.
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This dagger is already a partdagger... unfotunetly.

But If I did not own dagger like this I would buy this one (if it was avaliable).

I'd still love to own it!!

Please explain to me as I am a new person here -isn't that wrong to replace the blade from a completely different dagger. Isn't that changing the history? Of course, it does not have a serial number but it is still, what would be called force-matching. I suspect dagger dealers do this all the time, but I would be very uncomfortable knowing that it is a part dagger, a Frankenstein.

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Originally posted by Boris:
isn't that wrong to replace the blade from a completely different dagger. Isn't that changing the history?.........I would be very uncomfortable knowing that it is a part dagger, a Frankenstein.

seems you answered your own question.

Wit high end items it is very important to purchase an Item from a reputible dealer or seller. Also, if you can, post pictures here of what your looking at for opinions so you do not get caught up like this...

Brian

Richard, im sorry to see that you have been on the end of a less than satisfactory transaction. Personally I would be seeking a return of my money on this piece. I know you purchased it some time ago but im sure that Bernie and yourself could work something out here.