#8597
12/23/2009 10:01 PM
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Hi:
I'm new to this. I'm wondering if I could get some opinions on what the best books are for giving someone information on German bayonets and the markings that identify their makers, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
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#8598
12/24/2009 03:50 AM
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Great books on bayonets are: The Sword and Knife Makers of Germany, 1850-2000, by Anthony Carter Bayonets of the World, by Paul Kiesling. The Kiesling book does not identify the makers, but is a great reference book for any bayo collector. A great set of books identifying the various makers and maker marks used by German manufacturers are volumes 3 & 4 of Fisher's NS Dagger Maker Trademarks. You can buy the Fisher books at lakesidetrader.com and the others come up occasionally on e-ban. A good place to look on the world wide web is: http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/John
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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#8599
12/24/2009 07:53 AM
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Hello The best place on the web to identify K98 bayonets is : http://k98.free.fr/Starbust
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#8600
12/24/2009 02:04 PM
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Thank you for the advice. I've added bookmarks to my folder thanks to both of you.
Keep those suggestions coming.
I'm excited and waiting for my first bayonet, scabbard and frog to arrive in the mail any day now...
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#8601
12/26/2009 04:07 PM
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Good books on German bayonets:-
The German S84/98 Bayonet Vol 1 1908-1933 - Bruce Karem.
The Collectors Book of German Bayonets 1680-1945 - Roy Williams.
Seitengewehr - George Wheeler.
German Sidearms and Bayonets : 1740-1945 - Klaus Lubbe.
Various books by Anthony Carter.
IMO - all useful references.
Regards
Richie
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#8602
12/27/2009 08:49 PM
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Keep in mind the Lubbe book has several fakes in the KS98 section.
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#8603
12/27/2009 09:13 PM
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Houston, are you talking about etched blades?
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#8604
12/28/2009 01:26 AM
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Yes-and several others-grip emblems-pommel engravings, etc.
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#8605
12/30/2009 12:41 AM
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I've read a lot about etched blades lately and my goal is to avoid them like the plague until I know much more and understand the marks and numbering system better. I have my eyes on a book and a bayonet or two. I think I need three before I have a "collection" I'm happy with my first purchase, however. Thanks for the info!
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#8606
12/30/2009 12:42 AM
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quote: Seitengewehr - George Wheeler.
How good is this book, honestly... For some reason I really want it. Any opinions?
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#8607
12/30/2009 12:51 AM
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George Wheelers book is a must buy. I don't know how many times I have read thru it.
TKissinger
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#8608
12/30/2009 01:00 AM
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That's what I was thinking. Thanks for confirming the analysis. I'll have to make some wise purchases. Many thanks for the help!
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#8609
12/30/2009 01:14 AM
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Here is a small book I put together for beginners. It covers the different TR dress bayonets you will find, and how they are put together. I have a section on Trade Marks that I have observed in the 20 years of collecting, and a section on scabbards. Nothing like Georges book but great for the beginner. 
TKissinger
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#8610
12/30/2009 04:45 AM
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quote: George Wheelers book is a must buy. I don't know how many times I have read thru it.
TKissinger
I agree, mine's sitting on the desk next to the computer now! It rarely stays on the shelf very long. Lance
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#8611
01/01/2010 03:44 AM
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Mike Welsers booklet is great too! sells all the time on fleabay.
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#8612
01/01/2010 02:25 PM
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Thanks for the great advice. I'm doing a library search for Wheeler's book. I hope I can find it and borrow it first before buying it. I doubt, however, that any library in my area would have it, but we'll see...
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#8613
01/01/2010 08:43 PM
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mpj_46,
I don't think there is any ONE book that fully covers the subject of German bayonets. Depending on which era or model you collect, you may need several. For example, Bruce Karem's book deals only with S84/98 prior to 1933. While Wheeler's book covers German bayonets from 1919-1945.
Happy collecting,
Keith
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