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#85286 02/20/2006 05:25 AM
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Mike,

Mine is perched, and I keep having to sell all the others to pay for the goodies. But I keep the one.

Best,

Kris

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I still waiting for some comments/opinions on the 16" example I posted several pages back. What say ye?? Good or Bad?
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#85288 02/20/2006 06:03 PM
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Jim,

They are heavily faked, but I have seen 2 originals. They look O.k, but a lot of them out there. So, I dont want to make the call, for whatever that is worth.

Kris

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I spose if I hang my wehog up, no one can see the back...

All kidding aside, what price ranges do these command? All I really know is what mine cost me, which was fair even if it is a fake. I would really like to get an idea from you guys who know.

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#85290 02/21/2006 04:13 AM
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As a side note, I've written up and added 2 new makers in the reference, Railroad Eagle's of the 3rd Reich. It consists of 4 pages that details the description of these 2 newly discovered makers, plus the maker marks, and 5 nice large photos. They are done in the same format and in the plastic sheet protectors, so you can just pop them in your book. If you need a copy of these updates, please contact me and I'll either send them out or you can pick them up at the SOS. Like most things, there is a small charge involved. Thanks, JR

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#85291 02/21/2006 06:09 AM
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Finally, here is the back of my eagle.

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#85293 02/21/2006 06:13 AM
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And last. The top 2 lugs are drilled and tapped, metric, and the bottom is untouched. They are as cast, and have not been altered or ground on in any way, other than, of course, the drilling of the 2.

....tj

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#85294 02/21/2006 04:39 PM
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Ju88, the back of your eagle is typical of the wehog eagles that I have inspected. A poor cast nub that shows that there never was the 2 1/2- 3 inch cone/stud that all others were found with or evidence that they at least started out this way.

Your eagle only has 2, approximate 1/4 inch holes drilled through the wings with perhaps a metric 6-8 mm bolt inserted. The boss at the bottom of the swastika was never even drilled. I ask the question, other than the sheet rock in your living room, what other possible application would this eagle be able to hold fast to ? If a legit period eagle were in fact cast that way, the uses would be entirely limited, and not like the others that started out with a hefty cone stud and could be cut down for any application. The Wehog that you show wouldn't make sense to manufacture in this fashion, because it would lend itself so limitedly.

Now take your hand and run it around the circle that the swastika and wreath are in. I'm willing to bet that the wreath is so jagged that it would cut your hand with just a little amount of pressure. Every railroad eagle that I've ever owned or inspected, is nice and smooth and hand finished in this wreath area. And as a matter of fact, all of the edges on these birds are hand filed and deburred.

Lastly,take a look at the top edges of the wings on that Wehog. I bet that there are file marks that are in the casting, and not something that was done to finish the bird after it was cast. Another indication that the piece is cast from a mold that used a real period Wehog to make the reproduction.

If in the end you're still not convinced, send your eagle directly to Tommy, as he is buying all Wehog eagles for top $$$ Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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Here is a photo from my files that either show your eagle or another identical Wehog made with the cast over lower nub. Smile Real ? Or reproduction ? How many collectors want a Wehog for their collection now ? As I said before, there is a legit period Wehog 28 inch eagle out there somewhere...............but I haven't seen it yet! Big Grin

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#85296 02/22/2006 02:11 AM
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Good point on the lugs. Mine actually is smooth around the wreath. I see a similiar mark in the same place as the one you just posted, but I don't think it is the same piece.
Once again, what is a realistic price for an authentic eagle in roughly the same condition?

Thanks for all of your help on this matter,

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#85297 02/22/2006 02:43 AM
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Your's is jagged around the wreath, Sir, I can see it in your photo. When you finally get to inspect a period eagle, you'll know what smooth feels like. Smile

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#85298 02/22/2006 08:34 AM
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Ah, yes, I see what you mean now. Daddy always said "Son, you may be slow, but you'll catch up".


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#85299 02/22/2006 03:27 PM
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I got Roy's wehog and it conforms to all the criteria JR pointed out. A very nice display piece, but not near the fine finish of the APAG real one I own. The wehog is much heavier as well.

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#85300 02/23/2006 02:06 AM
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Mine's up on the wall now, where it looks as nice as a counterfiet Rembrant....


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#85302 01/29/2007 08:55 PM
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That link takes me to the General interest page.

I would like to see this information.

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#85303 02/14/2007 08:38 PM
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what about those smaller aluminium version Houston mentions (well) above.
With the V's on the back.
They seems to be around from in the beginning.
Are the early repros?
I do not think that this has been answered, but I have some trouble opening all the pics of this post.

If period correct, what are this smaller eagles worth?

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#85304 02/14/2007 08:39 PM
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backside , no markings at all except the "V" s.
The head may be lacking the detail of the big ones, but I must say I like the straight lines of the swastika.

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#85305 05/01/2007 12:56 AM
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I am in the sand casting business and this sort of thing is easy to copy from an original at low cost. Every time a copy is made from an original, detail and size is lost. If you have no original I can make them from your new wood carving.
Ed

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