#84330
06/16/2007 11:38 PM
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Was (is this) an Imperial Postal Sword?
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#84331
06/16/2007 11:39 PM
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#84332
06/16/2007 11:39 PM
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#84333
06/16/2007 11:41 PM
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#84334
06/16/2007 11:42 PM
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#84335
06/17/2007 12:44 AM
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Tex,
I took off the post as you requested. That emblem sure looks like the postal service horn.
Dave
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#84336
06/17/2007 01:28 AM
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Thanks. It's really a curious item. The sword has never been dinked with and was in a group of items that all were 100% legit. I could not see a manufacutrer's logo.
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#84337
06/17/2007 01:42 AM
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That emblem looks like the Imperial auto corps thing to me. See the Johnson/Wittmann Imperial book.
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#84338
06/17/2007 03:22 AM
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While I've got all of those folks' books (I think; as well as the Angolia Sword book) I don't recall them having a joint one. Could you please be kind and give me a more specific book and page number or even better take a pic of the page? Thanks mucho, I appreciate you assistance!
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#84339
06/17/2007 04:08 AM
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The crossed swords behind the bugle should make it orginally a Calvary sword.
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#84340
06/17/2007 04:34 AM
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Dow is correct. And judging from the black plastic grip and plain blade the sword is probably not Imperial, but a post WW I "generic" style cavalry sword. As for the horn at the moment I don't have a clue, although something may come to mind later. FP
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#84341
06/17/2007 08:55 PM
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I was refering to the book "Collecting the edged weapons of Imperial Germany Vol 1" by Johnson and Wittmann. Only volume so far of that series as I know it. Chapter 5 has the auto corps info in it.
But after further review I believe the auto corps bugle is of a different shape. The one pinned/attached unto this cavalry sword looks more like the current German post office logo, but must have some other significance. This sword type looks a little later too than when the auto corps was functioning.
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#84342
06/17/2007 09:11 PM
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Could the horn emblem have a hunting horn connection? Maybe a post to the "Houston Coates" forum might explore that possibility.
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#84343
06/19/2007 01:54 AM
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The hilt looks like an Eickhorn model 1324. The grip material would indicate that it was probably made in the Weimar era or Third Reich, but I believe I have seen Imperial era sabers with the celluloid grip coverings, so without a trademark it could be difficult to date precisely. I would like to know how the grip insignia was affixed. Most collectors are skeptical of anything pinned on a saber, and righly so. I am NOT saying it isnt original, but only that the method of attachment would be something worth checking out. WKC commonly attached the national eagle to langets in the Third Reich, and the Garde du Korps insigia were often attached to langets. If your is epoxied or super glued, I would think that would be a bad thing.
You might want to check out the Eickhorn Musterbuch der Waffenfabrik, there are a lot of unusual sabers in there.
Good luck, Joe S
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#84344
06/25/2007 12:32 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe S: The hilt looks like an Eickhorn model 1324. I would like to know how the grip insignia was affixed. /QUOTE] On closer inspection there is a proof mark - Eichorn. The 'Horn' is held on by two prongs that go thru the langet(?) and are bent over and somewhat flattened to hold it in place.
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