#8193
01/09/2010 02:20 PM
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A friend of mine has been ripped off by a Sir Gregory who says he is in the US.
Is this one of those spammers we have discussed?
Jim
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#8194
01/09/2010 09:22 PM
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i don`t know who he is either, but i wish he`d stop sending me e-mails. my spam box is full of them!!.
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#8195
01/09/2010 11:50 PM
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I`m not sure if a search of the forum will bring anything up now because many postings have disappeared but....."sir gregory" is well known to be a person of ill repute.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.
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#8196
01/10/2010 01:24 AM
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His name is Greg Zuraski and he is a "militaria" dealer to IMO avoid. Jim
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#8197
01/10/2010 02:11 PM
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I distinctly remember we have discussed this guy, I guess the threads are gone.
A friend of mine did not know about him and paid for some SA daggers. We would like to get his address so my friend can start legal proceedings.
So, does anyone have his address or any other particulars other than the fact we know this guy is skum.
I appreciate any help you guys can give.
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#8198
01/10/2010 02:43 PM
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quote: Greg Zuraski
Jim, I dont know if Jim M made a typo but there is mention of a Greg Zurawski in this thread. Just could be? http://www.wehrmacht-awards.co...thread.php?p=3715162Reference is to item/s on Bob Treend`s site & a guy called Petrin.
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#8199
01/10/2010 03:18 PM
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I have received a private response from one member who knows this guy and who is going to try and intervene.
At the same time, I find it interesting that this guy has been spamming all of us for some time and we do not know his physical location.
Is this the power to the internet?
Jim
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#8200
01/10/2010 03:25 PM
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Does anyone else think that Sir Gregory is Bruce Petrin.
That would really be interesting plus explain a lot.
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#8201
01/10/2010 04:43 PM
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Bruce Petrin, aka: Mr. Keys and considered as some sort of militaria Guru and Messiah on MCF. Also known as M. Gold in the private circles of the militaria community. Recently sold an SA dagger with a strange olive scabbard to a GDC member. http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...350078095#3350078095Said that the olive color scabbard was vet acquired of course and 100% original. Later found out that it was a modern painted job.
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#8202
01/10/2010 05:01 PM
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I am amazed at what I do not know.
If I had known Bruce Petrin was Sir Gregory I would have paid attention to the offerings.
I have advised my friend where Mr Petrin hangs out and suggested he discuss the matter with him.
Thank you everyone.
Jim
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#8203
01/10/2010 05:05 PM
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#8204
01/10/2010 05:06 PM
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Mr petrin has not been on MCF for many months
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#8205
01/10/2010 05:16 PM
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quote: Jim, I dont know if Jim M made a typo but there is mention of a Greg Zurawski in this thread.
Just could be?
I suspect the spelling mistake is mine as I was doing ths from memory but this is the "Sir Gregory" you seek. Bruce Petrin is most definitely NOT Sir Gregory. Jim
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#8206
01/10/2010 06:04 PM
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So, the plot thickens. Slowly we turn, "step by step."
I am waiting to get the pertinent info from my friend to try and sort this out.
What I need is a Mongobong rooting around to get to the bottom.
I think Bruce is a good guy and if he is involved I would hope he would get me out from the middle of this.
Thank everyone.
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#8207
01/10/2010 06:14 PM
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I meant only that there was a reference to a connection between Petrin & Zurawski, not that they were one & the same. `Birds of a feather` as they say. Glad this info was some help to you Jim. Good luck!
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#8208
01/10/2010 07:47 PM
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I have the name, address, bank account coming ,from my friend, to me, and will be able to resolve who Sir Gregory really is.
Thank you
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#8209
01/10/2010 08:24 PM
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Just could be?[/QUOTE]
Bruce Petrin is most definitely NOT Sir Gregory. Jim[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the update Jim, I don't want to accuse anyone without any proof or reliable sources.
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#8210
01/11/2010 01:34 AM
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Hi Guys. Bruce Petrin is not "Sir Gregory". this is a fact. Pat. You are a great asset to the hobby and I may need you to help get my friends money back, but Bruce is not involved.
Thank you everyone, and stay tuned.
Jim
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#8211
01/11/2010 03:05 AM
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I've also done some research and Sir Gregory is definitively not Bruce Petrin. Though I'm not a big fan of him, I wouldn't want anyone to be confuse about who's the real antagonist. Fair is fair !
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#8212
01/11/2010 03:00 PM
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Bruce comes from N.C. I think it was established in an other thread "Sir G." came from Ga. or another state close bye. There was a thread a while back about him. I posted something which was wrong and he challanged me to retract it which i did on the site. I tried to find it but to much has been deleted.
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#8213
02/04/2010 05:15 PM
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Here is what I have discovered. Thank you to those people who emailed me and helped me understand the situation.
Sir Gregory (Greg Zurawski) has associates in Poland and Germany who scour the flea markets and basically buy everything they can that will pass as a dagger.
Those members like myself, and I believe Gaspere and others will agree, the quality of the daggers at the flea markets was bad in 1994 and got worse until 2000 when I left. I hardly believe there is very much real coming out of the woodwork at the flea markets in the former East Block and Germany.
But I digress. Greg Zurawski receives these daggers in bulk, then lists them and those are the emails many of us receive. It is my understanding he personally does not see the daggers as anything but a unit of trade. In other words a parts dagger and an original dagger are the same to him.
If you buy a dagger from Greg Zurawski and send him the money, he will deliver the dagger. However, if you want to return the dagger, there are sometimes problems. I know of at least two people who returned the item and never received anything back.
This is the case with my friend in Italy. He made a bulk purchase of 20 daggers for $6,500. When he received them, he noted they were parts daggers and reproductions. He then agreed to keep 5 daggers (6 daggers according to Greg Zurawski) and return the rest for a $5,000 refund.
Greg Zurawski received the daggers and claims that the buyer took the parts from all the daggers and put together 6 out of the best parts and returned the junk to him.
Knowing he is now in a no win situation, my friend has agreed to accept the original daggers he sent back for refund.
AND NOW THE BREAKDOWN IN COMMUNICATION.
Sir Gregory now claims that he posted the daggers back to Italy, but has no documentation. So it appears he has stolen $5,000 from my friend
So, buyer beware. When something is too good to be true, it probably is.
By the way, it appears Sir Gregory has left Louisiana and is now in Florida.
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#8214
02/04/2010 06:26 PM
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Gaspare could probably confirm this, but in my experience, the picker/scavenger in Europe is highly aggressive.They know what the average collector likes on the continent or in North America.They will fling themselves over tables to reach an item before you do.
It's a big money business for them over there, and they will pick an area clean.They will hound you if they find you have something they want.They will set up burglaries of houses to obtain German items.
Now, as the supply is dwindling over there, they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Some of these men are actually quite dangerous.
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#8215
02/04/2010 06:43 PM
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I personally do not see anything wrong with what the pickers are doing. In fact, all Greg has to do is sell his items "as is" with "no returns" and all the problems are resolved.
I do think he should have sent the daggers back to Italy.
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#8216
02/04/2010 06:45 PM
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HELLO,YES SIR GREGORY IS POLISH NATIONALITY I CAN CONFIRM IT/ HE COOPERATE WITH OTHER POLISH ROBBERS/ THEY SELLING FAKE OR HALF FAKE DAGGERS ANYWHERE THEY CAN.THIS IDIOT STOLE FROM ME 7500USD.HE COOPERATE WITH DAVID CIAZYNSKI,GNIEZNO..HIS WEBPAGE-BEERHALLPUTSCH.COM
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#8217
02/04/2010 07:48 PM
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Now it is getting very interesting. Here's the link to the web site http://www.beerhallputsch.com/index.phpThis gentleman is the person that was selling the infamous Goering Industrial sword that everybody talked about for a while. Selling price was $ 2 million. The Goering sword was highly publicized by Bruce Petrin and listed by him to be sold on http://www.germanmilitariacoll...?classified_Id=13099The sword was listed for a couple of months and it ain't there any more, don't know if they sold it but these two gentlemen were working hands in hands together. This is where the confusion comes from.
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#8218
03/15/2010 04:24 PM
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quote: Originally posted by SWORD1968: HELLO,YES SIR GREGORY IS POLISH NATIONALITY I CAN CONFIRM IT/ HE COOPERATE WITH OTHER POLISH ROBBERS/ THEY SELLING FAKE OR HALF FAKE DAGGERS ANYWHERE THEY CAN.THIS IDIOT STOLE FROM ME 7500USD.HE COOPERATE WITH DAVID CIAZYNSKI,GNIEZNO..HIS WEBPAGE-BEERHALLPUTSCH.COM
So are theese two guys i Poland or in a different european country?
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#8219
03/15/2010 04:54 PM
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The information I received indicated that there are several "pickers" in different countries.
Let us be clear that this kind of Pole is considered by the Polish people to be a "Coyote". Their term for it. In short Poles consider him to be a Pole who was corrupted by the outside world and is no longer Polish.
So let's leave Poland out of this.
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