#79996
08/13/2006 01:02 PM
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Picked up this gem at the MCCofC show this weekend. Canadian vet bring back as we where tasked with cleaning up the German ports after D DAY till the armastice. This award was for workers at French ports and there was a much different one for Norway. Can be seen in Niemen vol 2 p285.Neat it has survived on the card as these are not marked or numbered so we know who made them. They where issued with a document.
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#79997
08/13/2006 01:06 PM
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this is the reverse of the card
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#79998
08/22/2006 03:03 AM
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Nice stickpin, but the LDO card does not show who the maker is. LDO means: Leistungsgemeinschaft deutscher Ordenshersteller, or Administration of German Orders Manufacturers. The LDO required manufacturers to affix their assigned "L" numbers to specified orders/decorations, (but not to all, to the dismay of modern-day collectors). A good listing of assigned LDO numbers is in the back of Angolia's Vol.1. I have a silver version, also unmarked, from a veteran back in 1975, & wish I knew the maker.
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#79999
08/22/2006 04:40 AM
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hey thanks for that info always thought that was a maker. Also Niemann does not list grades of this award so your silver is news.I wonder whether the number 0041 denotes the maker ?
PAUL
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08/22/2006 02:16 PM
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I don't think the nr. 0041 denotes the maker, I have probably 40+ stickpins on LDO cards & many have this nr. on them; to me it seems like a stock nr. for the card itself. This Submarine Shipyard Workers Badge is covered a bit on page 339 in Angolia's Volume 2. On 27.8.1944, an article on this badge appeared in the German Grüne Press (Green Press) showing some pictures of shipyard workers, & a picture of the badge.
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08/22/2006 02:47 PM
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I have a copy of the original German text from that 27.8.44 "Grünen Post", & here it is as it appeared, in German: (perhaps someone may properly translate this into English),- "Kamerad Werftmann",- Kamerad Werftmann ist der treue Helfer unserer U-Boot-Männer und ist ihr bester Kamerad. Stolz trägt er das Werftleistungsabzeichen (rechts) das U-Boot mit Zahnkranz und Hoheitsabzeichen. Mancher Werftmann hat schon im ersten Weltkrieg auf einer U-Boot-Werft gearbeitet, war damals vielleicht unten in Pola und steht heute droben am Atlantik, wo er seine Erfahrungen mit Erfolg einsetzt. Die Werftmänner fahren mit und leben in ihrer Arbeit. Es sind ihre U-Boote, die sie überholen und die sie wieder bereit zur Feindfahrt machen. Und wie diesem stählernen Pfeil ihr ganzes Herz gehört, so schaffen sie unentwegt selbst mit an den Verbesserungen von Maschinen und Geräten. Zum Beispiel: Der Werkführer G. Kreis hat einen Apparat zur Luftverbesserung konstruiert. Nach langer Feindfahrt kehrt ein U-Boot zurück. Kamerad U-Boot-Mann und Kamerad Werftmann haben sich nicht vergessen, haben ihre gemeinsame Arbeit und die frohen Stunden der Arbeitspause während der letzten Liegezeit in herzlicher Erinnerung. Nun kreuzen die alten Freunde auf: "Hallo, Jungs! Hallo wie geht es euch?" Jeder der Werftmänner hat gewissermassen so etwas wie ein Spezial-Boot, eines, das ihm besonders am Herzen liegt, und meistens ist es das, auf dem ein guter Freund schwimmt. Wenn dann die beiden zusammengeraten, dann gibt es einen Händedruck, der aus Kieselsteinen Wasser quetscht. Hopefully one of our German-speaking members can translate this so we might have a better understanding of this rare badge.
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#80002
08/22/2006 06:59 PM
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PERHAPS you could post this over in the German translation forum
PAUL
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08/22/2006 09:38 PM
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08/22/2006 10:25 PM
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so what is your opinion about the 0041 number does in mean bender is the maker ?
Paul
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08/22/2006 10:46 PM
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As stated, 0041 is most likely associated with the maker of the paper card. Not the actual award. Stock number or something.
I posted the list for reference.
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#80006
08/22/2006 10:54 PM
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At one time there was a post by Mr. Stump covering these awards and repros. Have not so far located it.
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#80007
08/22/2006 10:57 PM
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I also have one of these, but not in as good shape. There is no TM on the reverse of mine.
TKissinger
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#80008
08/23/2006 01:37 AM
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Very nice and a tough pin. I agree that the 0041 isn't the maker but maybe a stock number. Are the any markings on the back?
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#80009
08/23/2006 02:46 AM
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NOPE no marks on any of the one which have come to light here so far
Paul
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