#79555
08/27/2007 08:27 PM
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If this is not the right section then forgive me, but my own interest is SS tunics, history, personalities etc. and you can imagine my surprise when I saw a familar face on a newspaper-stand in Beijing during my recent holiday. Rudolf von Ribbentrop no less, on the cover of BLITZ magazine which is a monthly (bi-monthly?) publication about the last war, but concentrating on 3rd Reich issues. I managed to get some back copies and they included articles on White SS tunics, the Malmedy trial, RK winners, Partisan Badge details and lots more.
Many of the photos will be familiar to us, but enough are new to justify the cover price of 15 yuan, or £1 sterling - even taking account of the language problem!!
Maybe some of our Chinese colleagues can comment more fully on this publication but I wish the writers and publishers well for the future.
I'm attaching some photos to show you the quality .
First is the cover...
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#79556
08/27/2007 08:29 PM
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...and the cover of a "Special on the Allgemeine SS"
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#79557
08/27/2007 08:32 PM
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...I've seen Kraas in his tux but never with the cape.
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#79558
08/27/2007 08:34 PM
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...and this one of Dietrich with the Traditions Gau badge on the RIGHT pocket?
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#79559
08/27/2007 09:13 PM
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how weird is that? in Chinese even? 
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#79560
08/27/2007 09:31 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Tristan:
...and this one of Dietrich with the Traditions Gau badge on the RIGHT pocket?
And look wheres the armband on the sleeve of the tunic.........not regulation I think!!!!!
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#79561
08/27/2007 10:47 PM
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Wolf,
Who do think in the SS would have walked up to Sepp and told him his uniform was incorrect ? Same reason that WWII generals like Patton wore pretty much what they wanted.
Dave
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#79563
08/28/2007 06:23 PM
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I'm sure ol' man 'Sepp didn't want to cover up his gold bullion sleeve adler.
Mike Dalton
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#79564
08/28/2007 06:40 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Mike Dalton: I'm sure ol' man 'Sepp didn't want to cover up his gold bullion sleeve adler.
And to complement the gold bullion cuftittle(I know he only used gold on the f.grey tunic)....nothing like the red,white,back armband Even in a formal review with the blood flag, Sepp was above and apart of the crowd in that photo...I think he just wanted to go home after a loooooooong day at the rally 
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#79565
08/28/2007 06:51 PM
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If the publisher did an English version of this same publication, the circulation and acceptance would be amazing!
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#79566
08/29/2007 02:07 AM
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quote: Originally posted by JR:
If the publisher did an English version of this same publication, the circulation and acceptance would be amazing!
I agree but the problem here is the language barrier. Else i would have subscribed too.  Cheers, Ibrahim, Singapore.
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#79567
08/29/2007 03:13 PM
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And they said the hobby was dying!!!
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#79568
08/29/2007 10:16 PM
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This is truly where East meets West!
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#79569
08/29/2007 11:38 PM
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Great! Maybe they will buy army daggers! PVON
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#79570
08/30/2007 07:02 PM
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subscribed, i would, because a picture paints 1000 words... Kraas in his tux but never with the cape.  daz
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#79571
08/31/2007 05:50 PM
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I've just sent some copies of the Allgemeine book down to Arthur Thornton at "World of Warfare Books", so check in with him.
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#79572
09/01/2007 04:47 AM
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Globalization!!!
World wide appreciation of the Events & Objects of WW2 - evidenced by folks who spend their $$ / YEN / YUAN / Euro - on TR Items...
Overall - it's GOOD for the Hobby... Dave/dblmed
[Always looking for TeNo � Schuma � Technische Noodhulp Items...]
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#79573
09/01/2007 08:46 AM
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It is, indeed, a small world!
Incidentally, their Vol 1 was on the waffen SS.
A couple of photos attached that were new to me.
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#79574
09/01/2007 08:48 AM
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I dont think copyright is an issue with Chinese publishers!
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#79575
09/01/2007 08:49 AM
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#79576
09/02/2007 04:54 PM
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shows where the real money is in the WORLD today!
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#79577
09/02/2007 05:11 PM
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I can just see this magazine with handsome SS officers in full regalia on "our" news stands.  -wagner-
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#79578
09/08/2007 08:04 AM
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Hi, Sir I am one editor and writer of Clarion. Our magazine is focus on International uniforms and medals, badges, orders. If you are interested in our magazine, I can post pictures. And, if you want to try to read it, you can visit our ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/Clarion-Militaria_Clarion-MagazineWe just published vol3 Xie Liang
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#79579
09/08/2007 08:06 AM
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quote: Originally posted by ibrahim ahmad: Hi guys, Just to inform all of you, Third Reich militaria are really REALLY hot in China... My fellow singaporean bank collector friend, Ian Lim, told me that he sells EK1 to super rich China guys...and they pay close to double the amount in US dollar. Seriously speaking they have their own forums/websites plus magazines...amazing man.. Click here:- http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209972 http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221714&highlight=china   Cheers, Ibrahim, Singapore.
Hi, Dear Ibrahim So many thanks for your free ad I am the friend of Tang Si. He asked me to express his best regards to you Thanks a lot! Xie Liang
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#79580
09/09/2007 01:03 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Xie Liang:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ibrahim ahmad:
Hi guys,
Just to inform all of you, Third Reich militaria are really REALLY hot in China... My fellow singaporean bank collector friend, Ian Lim, told me that he sells EK1 to super rich China guys...and they pay close to double the amount in US dollar.
Xie Liang
Just like EVERYTHING in the U.S. today . . . Sad to see very few American's taking note about the buying-power we are giving to a Communist country . . . I'll end it here, but I want it to be known that I don't think it's right for anyone bragging about the buying power of a specific country (or any entity for that matter!) versus another here . . . IF YOU CENSURE ME OVER THIS, I HOPE YOU CONSIDER CENSURING OTHERS RIGHTFULLY SO AS WELL!! BUT AMERICAN AND KEEP AMERICA WORKING!!!!! Brad
The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have . . . .
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#79581
09/09/2007 05:48 PM
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ALIVE AND WELL! YEAH IN CHINA-GIVE ME A BREAK!! 
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#79582
09/10/2007 02:04 AM
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Brad, you echo my sentiments exactly.In the great chase to make everything at the lowest price I fear we are paying the high price in the end.Hopefully with the advent of chinese cars coming to the US especially at a time when detroit is struggling americans will relize this.
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#79583
09/10/2007 03:23 AM
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As I said in the community center forum, " Jobs flee the source of money creation". Buying Amarican won't solve the problem. Gross deficit spendind of the US is the key problem. David
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#79584
09/10/2007 01:48 PM
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the world capitalism are hopping into China, fuelled by low operating cost...that explains their growing spending power/interest... but arrghh... who cares...in our collecting world, why talk polictics or undermine particular group of collectors? Their entering makes the third reich collecting arena more acceptable and could shed more information to share among us, which is a good thing. Now stop downplaying asia collectors and give them (in fact everyone) a chance to share this great hobby
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#79585
09/10/2007 02:05 PM
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 This is me biting my tongue.. MW
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.
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#79586
09/11/2007 06:49 AM
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quote: Originally posted by violin:
As I said in the community center forum, " Jobs flee the source of money creation". Buying Amarican won't solve the problem. Gross deficit spendind of the US is the key problem. David
I see your point about the above statement David. No government should have more paper money in circulation than it can cover in it`s material assets (gold). America & Britain keep printing more paper which will inevitably create a very real depression. More borrowing only puts a finger in the hole, it does not fix the problem.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is.
Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.
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#79587
09/12/2007 04:11 AM
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quote: No government should have more paper money in circulation than it can cover in it`s material assets (gold).
You have got to be kidding (or reading an economics book from the 19th Century).
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#79588
09/13/2007 03:45 AM
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I guess the thrust of this thread is that the Chinese are in the WW2 hobby. They would not want to buy Japanese since they probably despise the Japanese just as Amarican POW's still do. And the point of my post before is that they have new wealth, and so they are looking to spend it. The definition of a trade deficite is the export of wealth, and thus we are becoming a more poor nation because of this and staying in the hobby against Euro and chinese buyers may be more difficult because of the devaluation of our dollar against other currancies. The dollar just hit, today, an all time low against the the euro. So if you read my post in the community center thread on "Todays collectors" you will see my explanation of why jobs flee the source of money creation and why the prices of third reich items in the US will rise as the demand from foreign investors increases due to the fall in the dollar and rise in the euro. David
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#79589
09/13/2007 03:56 AM
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Landser, I am glad you see my point. bwanek1, just because a book was written in the 1800's doesnt mean it wasn't right! No less an investor than Warren Buffet states that the budget and trade deficites are the ONLY two swords of Damoclese that hang over our heads. The war on terror is insignificant if you can no longer project power because of economic collapse. Landser, what you said is absolutely correct, and if you don't believe me google Alan greenspand and gold and read his essay written in 1967. You won't believe what he said. What he said has come to pass and he contributed to it during his tenure as fed chairman. David PS everyone on this forum right now needs to google Alan Greenspan and Gold and Economic Freedom and read it. Your world views will be changed. david
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#79590
09/13/2007 04:50 AM
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Let me see if I understand all of you. First, many of you complain that there are no new faces in the collecting community. Next, you complain that we shouldn't be sending TR relics overseas to those with interest and the money as we are not helping the economy
Next, we must stop the devaluation of the dollar and stop the slide of our currency
Now, just exactly, how do we do this by burying our head in the US sand?
Ron Weinand
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#79591
09/13/2007 11:41 AM
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Personally, I don't think that our hobby as a whole will make any difference on our North American economy. Whether you sell a thousand SS's to someone in China will have a ZERO effect on our economy. Secondly, the fact of having popular WWII magazines being sold in China does NOT make our hobby "well and alive". Buying a magazine for $ 2 USD is very different from buying a $ 1000 USD SA dagger. Most people in China can afford to buy such a magazine but can they afford to buy an SS dagger ? Perhaps some can but let me tell you that the vast majority just can't. I've also been to China several times and though I don't speak any Chinese, you will not find any serious collectors in China. Sure there can be a few interested collectors but other than that, I doubt it. I know many people that buys every existing magazines that they can find on WWII and yet, they don't even own a single piece of edged weapon. Buying magazines is very different from buying a dagger. I also personally know 2 "big" dealers that I've talked to and none have sold any daggers to anyone east of Moscow or west of Anchorage. Ron, how many daggers have you shipped to Beijing recently ? :rolleyes BTW, has anyone seen any Chinese at both the Max or the SOS shows ? The only Chinese that I have seen at the Max is at the "Shanghai Restaurant" and the Won Tong soup was great.
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#79592
09/13/2007 02:25 PM
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Pat, I just shipped an Iron Cross First Class cased to China for $1192.00 and a Japanese Cav. Sword to Hong Kong for #275.00. Yesterday.
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#79593
09/13/2007 03:25 PM
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An iron cross for $1192.00? Was it might Dietrichs Kreuz?
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#79594
09/13/2007 03:40 PM
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My business is China based.Of the variety of individuals I associate with,my money is on Pat. They could care less about the West and TR. Too busy getting by. Seiler (Yank in UK)
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