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I thought you might find this interesting....
This is one of the rarest helmets that I know of. An M40 No-decal luftwaffe helmet. It is in virtually un-issued condition. The shell is a rear marked Q66 with a 1943 dated liner band. The painted finish is that "orange peel" type that is typically found on late Q M40s.
I have found that the vast majority of no-decal M40 helmets are rear-marked Qs. Since Q didn't switch over to M42 production until very late in the war, this type of helmet is the main example of what Q was producing from 42 until late 44 (or even until wars-end)
No-decal Luftwaffe helmets are rare enough (see my long-winded theory about that in my other posting) but even of those found, almost all are M42 produced by other makers. This is one of only 3 M40 No-decal lufts that I have ever seen.
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04/07/2006 07:46 PM
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That's a beauty.
"And I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow" -Cross of Iron
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#76641
04/07/2006 09:59 PM
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Ken
I have owned 1 M40 No decal Luft helmet. It was also a rear marked 1943 dated Q.
Back when I owned it, I sure did not know how rare a helmet like this was. Long since sold.
Matt
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04/08/2006 12:13 AM
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Ken, the determining factor being only its blue gray inside?
Robert
We are the hollow men, we are the stuffed men...leaning together, headpiece filled with straw. Alas!--T.S. Eliot 1925
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#76643
04/08/2006 12:38 AM
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quote: Originally posted by RGD51: Ken, the determining factor being only its blue gray inside?
Robert
It is the same color inside and out. It is the fault of my lighting that this is not so clear in the pics. But the helmet is definately blue-gray all around.
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#76644
04/08/2006 01:16 AM
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Gotcha...I thought it was slate on the outside. Thanks!
Robert
We are the hollow men, we are the stuffed men...leaning together, headpiece filled with straw. Alas!--T.S. Eliot 1925
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#76645
04/08/2006 06:23 AM
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I had a no decal M40 awhile back with a pieced together liner. Purchased off ebay from fuzzy photographs. Original paint in and out, dome stamp with no sign of a decal ever being applied.
Sold to a member from another board.
Chris
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04/08/2006 06:24 AM
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04/08/2006 06:24 AM
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04/08/2006 06:25 AM
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04/08/2006 07:54 AM
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If I remember correctly it was a Q 62
Chris
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04/08/2006 03:21 PM
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Ken, I owned an M40 Luft without decals, but don't remember the manufacture. Larry
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#76651
04/08/2006 05:17 PM
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not being a helmet guy...why am I having friging butterflys here...oh not...I think that is a woody...smile...fantastic...you guys are trying to turn me from beersteins...hey..you can drink out of both...Mr. Mike and JR...this is all your fault...thanx...still your SteinMeister...Roland
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#76652
04/09/2006 02:58 AM
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Well, Roland you can drop a $2000.00 helmet on the floor and still have it in one piece, not so most beer steins.....plus look at the curves on a German helmet....has the same effect on some fellows as the curves of a woman.
Cheers, Mike
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#76653
04/09/2006 03:38 AM
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Nopoops helmets is the 4th Luft no-decal m40 that I have seen. Larry's would be the 5th. It could be that I would have seen more if I had been especially looking for them all these years but I bet not.
The Q rear marked M40 is basically the Q version of the M42. That is, this is the helmet that Q was making while everybody else was making M42s. That being the case, the Q M40 No-decal luft could be considered a subdivion of all Luftwaffe no-decals in General.
Sounds like I am going a bit too far thinking of statistics... Better go and turn on the TV.
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