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Hi,
well, neither would I believe an etched logo was made pre-1945, nor would I want to see a memorial to the fallen from the Great War on my dagger blade as an active naval officer. To the German perception, this is more of a tombstone.
Seafarers are quite superstitious...
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I think some collectors believe the etched C&J logo was used pre-1945 although the majority believe they were assembled postwar using some period parts and in some cases postwar parts.

Several years ago I spoke with Tom Wittmann about this. He did feel that the etched logo daggers had to be judged on a case by case basis largely based on fit and finish consistent with 3R production. One thing also to keep in mind is the grip which should have a wooden core as the postwar grips did not.

A significant number of knowledgeable collectors have stated that these daggers are not period and that alone is enough of a caveat to a buyer. I did handle one maybe 5-6 years ago that could have convinced me it was period but all that means is period parts could have been used and fitted at the factory rather than decades later using whatever was available. They’re worth far less than a known period original either way due to the opinions out there.


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Hi I really appreciate the replies. I was offered two C&J naval daggers. One with the etched makers mark and the other with the dual stamping. Although I could find no fault with the quality of the etched maker mark I decided to purchase only the one and passed on the other.......I believe that regardless of pre or post war it would be virtually impossible to sell it at some point for the price offerred. Has anyone seen a period Robert Klass plain blade Kriegsmarine dagger offered for sae? thanks and regards, Ryan

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