#71437
10/05/2006 10:24 AM
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This is a early waffen ss nco cap made by clemens wagner. (stamped on the inside of the sweat band). I`ve been collecting visors for some time now, and I feel good about the cap.
But it`s always nice to get a second oppinion.
The cap band is 37mm wide, a little less than normal.. The eagle is marked rzm and 39 35.
It`s a early skull with some silver finish left.
Any comments on the insignia or the cap itself?
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#71438
10/05/2006 10:33 AM
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#71439
10/05/2006 10:34 AM
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inside. Visor has correct "waffle" pattern.
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#71440
10/05/2006 10:43 AM
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#71441
10/05/2006 10:44 AM
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#71442
11/12/2006 01:13 PM
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What`s happened with this forum?
It used to be fun and educating to visit.
Is it me or don`t people care any more.
Here I display a original waffen ss cap
and there is no comments what so ever?
Where have all the "know betters" gone..
kim
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#71443
11/12/2006 07:42 PM
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kim,
Yes, this forum is a mere shadow of its glorious former self. I'm afraid that all the good guys who knew SS uniforms, caps and cloth have been driven off by all the "think they know betters".
Sad, really.
Cheers,
Darryl
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#71444
11/12/2006 08:04 PM
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quote: What`s happened with this forum?
It used to be fun and educating to visit.
Is it me or don`t people care any more.
Here I display a original waffen ss cap
and there is no comments what so ever?
Where have all the "know betters" gone..
Hi Kim, Im afraid at the moment collectors have been a wee bit intimidated by snipers who are just content in causing aggro' I have personaly added some great items of early SS to my collection but unfortunately wouldnt want to share this on a forum at the moment.There seems to be a lot of jealousy in this hobby and many 'armchair' collectors are posting their views particularly from other sites who relish in the art of pi�� taking ! They are lurking this very minuet Im sure,waiting to pounce !!!! I like your cap,but eh what the f��� do I know,,, keep smiling through,Im sure the site will be back to the great and infomative one it once was,,,, 
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#71445
11/12/2006 08:52 PM
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Kim,
I like your cap too - something I would like to add to my collection some day as well. It is a shame about the lack of participation, but I also believe it will change for the better some day - hang in there!
Brad
The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have . . . .
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#71446
11/13/2006 01:14 AM
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I wish I knew more about certain things, I love the SS stuff but I haven't handled all that much (and I collect it!) I jus don't believe in adding my 2 cents in unless I am fairly sure I know what I am taking about.
Funny thing is, I don't really promote the forum to my local friends, I kind of look at it like en edge that I have on collecting, which these days have become very cut throat.
Is the band of your hat velvet or cloth? is it black or super dark green (under sunlight) I have one very similar, I never looked to see if it was marked on the sweatband.
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#71447
11/13/2006 01:30 AM
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Dear Kim,
Do you have a better photo of the Wagner sweatband stamp that shows the full inscription?
Derek
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#71448
11/13/2006 09:21 AM
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Kim,
I like your cap. I own two WSS EM's that display similar characteristics.
I look forward to hearing Derek's input on the Wagner sweatband stamp.
The one thing that makes me a bit suspicious is just the loosness of the stitching.
Here are a few pictures of mine for reference. The materials are very similar.
Doug
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#71449
11/13/2006 09:22 AM
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Notice the weave of the cloth...
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#71450
11/13/2006 09:24 AM
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#71451
11/14/2006 02:49 PM
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Doug,
Thanks for posting your extremely nice example. Does it have any date stamps under the band?
Derek
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#71452
11/15/2006 08:18 AM
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Derek,
I wish I could tell you, but the cap is in storage. Next time I get it out, I'll take a look.
Doug
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#71453
11/23/2006 03:06 PM
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This is not a Clemens Wagner, but a visor cap I have in my collection. Always a treat to look at these kind of caps.
Fred
"Panzer vorwärts!"
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#71454
11/26/2006 11:55 AM
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Thanks for comments. And nice to see other good
caps.
Derek I have tried to enlarge the photo of the stamp. I dont know if it is any better.
The loosness of the stitching is just there, it has come loose.
The cap band is felt / cloth and it is all black.
The photo came out wrong, I`ll try again later.
kim
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#71455
12/01/2006 08:34 PM
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I`m not able to get a good photo of the stamp.
I have tried to make some out of it:
"Clemens Wagner
M�tzenfabrikation
Braunschweig 1
B�ltenweg 72-73"
It look like it is more to the stamp. But it is impossible to tell if it`s text or just smudging from the stamp beeing folded over years.
kim
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