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fake or good ??? #5950 04/03/2009 09:16 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada Hi need advise again this time it's a bayonet and some mine markers real or not sorry these pictures are all i have for now bayo1.jpg (10.4 KB, 357 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5951 04/03/2009 09:17 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 2 bayo2.jpg (29.71 KB, 357 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5952 04/03/2009 09:17 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 3 bayo3.jpg (52.31 KB, 355 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5953 04/03/2009 09:18 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 4 mine_marker.jpg (42.02 KB, 353 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5954 04/03/2009 10:13 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Bajonet scabb frog real.. ss stamping on ricasso fake, ss marking on gribs fake, in fact you have a nice k98 bayonet but is actually now ruined with the fake ricasso/gribs stamping.. sorry to tell you that , the last pic i dont know weather they are fake or not but there probably someone her who does http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5955 04/03/2009 10:19 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada so you think the bayonet is real but altered ?

Re: fake or good ??? #5956 04/03/2009 10:22 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... yes the markings have been applyed postwar therefore its not an "original out of the factory" item anymore sort of speak http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5957 04/03/2009 10:24 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada and what about the number 4710 what does it mean?

Re: fake or good ??? #5958 04/03/2009 10:35 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... thats the serial number its the 14710 made of that year there should be a year stamping near the crossguard http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5959 04/03/2009 10:39 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada great info....thanks a million. could the ruins button be real from a ss dagger ? and now if i can get some input on the mine markers and pouch that would be fantastic.

Re: fake or good ??? #5960 04/03/2009 10:45 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... No problem glad i could help..well that i couldn�t say from the pics.. but i dont believe it no.. there is probably someone who will comment on those mineflags http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5961 04/04/2009 12:03 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada THANKS....i moved them to the flag section so i hope someone will give me some pointers on these

Re: fake or good ??? #5962 04/04/2009 11:09 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... good idea http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5963 04/06/2009 06:18 AM Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,199 Bratislava,Slovakia AndyB AndyB Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,199 Bratislava,Slovakia The bayonet looks like reworked and reblued, any other markings on opposite ricasso? the SS stamps and emblem are fakes.best regards,Andy

Re: fake or good ??? #5964 04/06/2009 06:28 AM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,274 (formerly) Northridge, Califor... Fred Prinz - FP Fred Prinz - FP Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,274 (formerly) Northridge, Califor... quote: The bayonet looks like reworked and reblued, any other markings on opposite ricasso? the SS stamps and emblem are fakes.best regards,Andy Looks that way to me also with a fake emblem as well. Is it possible the share the price and source? If not exactly, perhaps something to give a rough idea if more of these show up? Best Regards, FP

Re: fake or good ??? #5965 04/06/2009 01:14 PM Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 788 PA R [email protected] [email protected] R Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 788 PA Definitely not an authentic SS marking on the ricasso. The SS did have some ricasso markings but that is not one of them. Richard Kuchta

Re: fake or good ??? #5966 04/06/2009 04:08 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... quote: Originally posted by [email protected]: Definitely not an authentic SS marking on the ricasso. The SS did have some ricasso markings but that is not one of them. Richard Kuchta yeah i thought so too, why stop there once they started.. and yes come to think of the color of the piece dosent look right either, youre right andy. Well it was 2 in the morning or so when i answered my eyes where a little blured lol http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5967 04/15/2009 01:39 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada thanks , i do believe this has been post war altered for sure,but i needed to ask...here are some new pictures i took 2.jpg (46.03 KB, 155 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5968 04/15/2009 01:40 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 2 1.jpg (27.45 KB, 154 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5969 04/15/2009 01:40 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 3 5.jpg (41.07 KB, 154 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5970 04/15/2009 01:41 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 4 6.jpg (30.46 KB, 152 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5971 04/15/2009 01:42 AM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada 5 4.jpg (34.09 KB, 152 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5972 04/16/2009 04:24 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... yep reblued scabbard and blade of bayonet too... and the locking mechanism (dont know the english word for it ive forgotten it.. is not original for the bayonet i see it has some benchmarks on pommel.. somebody have worked on it.. otherwise ok ah.. the frog also original.. http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm

Re: fake or good ??? #5973 04/16/2009 05:36 PM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,274 (formerly) Northridge, Califor... Fred Prinz - FP Fred Prinz - FP Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 4,274 (formerly) Northridge, Califor... A button glued on with black epoxy(?). Mismatched, reblued, and vise marks on top of both the bayonet pommel, and locking mechanism. Not things that I think would be considered "plusses". FP epoxy_glued_button.jpg (35.59 KB, 82 downloads)

Re: fake or good ??? #5974 04/16/2009 05:48 PM Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada W wes_143 OP OP wes_143 W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 688 canada this was just in with a bunch of knives and other stuff i got recently. I know very little about bayonets and thought it safe to ask here. this one will end up at my flee market booth and the scabbard and frog on ebay.....thanks again for all your help and info.

Re: fake or good ??? #5975 04/17/2009 11:33 AM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... Wiking Wiking Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 292 On the roof behind the tall bu... yep fake ss badgy .. http://wikingsbajonetcollection.ooz.dk/index.htm