UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum SA Dagger, original, or not ?

Hi All !
Please share your opinion.
Viktor.

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the etch mark looks very `rough`.

Am no expert compared to others out there but not too fussed on the eagle. Just my opinion.

Ross

Original.

The blade looks like being heavily polished and then regrained. There are some stains inside the letters and logo, but the rest of the blade is mirror bright - strange, isn't it? The logo itself is not perfect looking one, but the '41 Eickhorns don't have nicely etched logos. Anyway, the dagger looks original to me.

Original. Nearly all acid etched trademarks can look rough if photographed closely.

Dave

Ok Dagger. Later models also have wider crossgraining.

Original... not a fan of that RZM mark though.

This is a great learning thread for me. Thank you experienced guys for the comments.
I would have guessed that the MM and wide graining were real red flags!
May I assume the etching comments from Dave and the wider crossgraining comments from Fitzer would apply to SS Daggers as well?

Mike

Many thanks, for your comments. You have very much helped me.
Viktor.

As one of the finishing steps in the production of the dagger (any dagger..) the width of the crossgrain bands is dependent on the type of wheel doing the polishing..not all wheels are created equal and two daggers being finished side by side with different wheels could have two completely different looks when finished

Some daggers do not have this look, some manufacturers polished their blades to a high sheen, a feature of much care and attention..as well as expense > more man hours.

Rohm daggers, factory ground by Eickhorn are good examples.Many will exhibit two different patterns of polishing crossgrain, on each side of the blade..the wheel used to polish the dagger blank is different and less coarse than the one used to clean up the blade after a grind..

Also, wether it is a wheel/mop or a rotary polishing band, speed, coarseness and compound type used (if any..) will all have an effect.

Remember, crossgrain is not a feature, it is a by-product..

I agree, this dagger looks original. Any acid etched maker mark can look a little rough when blow up in size. These digital cameras zoom in like a microscope! I took this picture of a maker mark, and thought wow, it looks much nicer in hand.

Plus in this SA example, the age/rust around and in the maker mark blurs the original definition. Also, quality went down once into the war.

John

Victor, have you purchased, or are you intending to purchase any of the daggers on which you have sought opinion. There have been a number of inquiries from you & no information other than "please share your opinion". It is becoming tiresome.

Personally I welcome the posting of any daggers for whatever reason along with the subsequent discussion of the pictured daggers. I thought that was what we were here for, to talk about daggers and learn from the discussions. JohnJ

I wish to buy these daggers, therefore I ask your authoritative opinion on their authenticity.
Thanks for your opinions concerning daggers, you have very much helped me.

Victor.

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Originally posted by JohnJ:
Personally I welcome the posting of any daggers for whatever reason along with the subsequent discussion of the pictured daggers. I thought that was what we were here for, to talk about daggers and learn from the discussions. JohnJ

I quite agree John but it is much more interesting if we know a little more background to the discussion. That is all I meant & no offence intended.

Viktor, I have seen nothing amiss with any of the items you have shown, so you have a good source & we are all willing to help any time.

Hi Vaughn, I understand what you're saying completely. I guess it gets kind of humdrum when someone just keeps asking the same, one question over and over without throwing any interesting info into the mix. Just hate to see anyone get discouraged from posting photos of daggers for discussion. Take care, JohnJ

John, is that balloon man on a 1st luft? Mike

Mike, it's a NSFK. John