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#52748 05/21/2006 08:28 PM
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Well, I'm finally getting a handle on overcoming the GD.com 75k posting limitation. For whatever reason, this helmet, has, in the past, been particularly difficult to image. These pics quite accurately portray the thing as it actually appears 'in the flesh'. Cool

These pics were taken at 2 megs, brightness/contrast adjusted, color balance adjusted, cropped, sharpened, reduced to 1200 pixels, sharpened, reduced to 999 pixels, sharpened, reduced to 699 pixels, saved to fit within the tiny 75k limit our system employs. All adjustments to the image were performed in the exact order described.

Bob Hudson's procedure can be very effective as it obviously worked quite well in this instance. Also, these pics were taken using a very light background. Perhaps contrast between the background and target object is crucial. Confused

http://www.bobhudson.com/reducephotos/

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#52749 05/21/2006 08:29 PM
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This image does not capture the true color of the helmet as does the image in the previous post, demonstrating the importance and sensitivity of the Photoshop color balance tool where a small adjustment can yield significant change.

Cody

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#52750 05/21/2006 08:41 PM
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Very impressive, Mr Grayland!
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Cody,

How about a picture of your "studio". It could enlighten us as to how you work your magic. Cool


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#52752 05/21/2006 09:16 PM
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Bernie,

You're just being silly. Wink

As shown in this shot of my upstairs 'studio', proper still photography requires a tripod.

The choice of air-conditioner is also of critical importance. Razz

In this shot, the sun is trying to peek out from behind a cloud. Typically, I shoot in the first part of the day before the sun has marched across the sky to then cast severe shadows on the 'studio' area. The overhanging white-painted gables of the house help reflect a soft ambient light onto the art board.

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Cody good post. I've been using his method also. I try to reduce in 200 pixel hunks. One thing I've tried with some success is with decaled helmets.

I've found that sharpening the whole picture each time sometimes sharpens the decal too much, while the helmet itself looks good.

So I experiment with the magic wand for selective sharpening in the reduction process staying away from the decal after the first or second sharpen/reduction. If at the end of the reduction process the decal could use alittle sharpening it can be done with the lasso tool and faded to get the right look.

So in photoshop it looks like this for the selective sharpen.

Wonderful photo editing program. This photo went through MS paint bitmap screen capture for an example so it won't appear as the original finished photo. Also found that neutral grey background works better with my camera.

All the best,

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Chris,

I'll have to try that next time a smooth-finsih needs to be shot. Cool The smooth-finshed helmets can be difficult to image, especially, if the finsh is glossy, such as in the example you posted.

The lighting conditions inherent at the top of my air-conditioner are serendipitous indeed and contribute greatly to the success of my imaging. Fussing with the trappings/equipment/lights/reflectors/tripods/etc...of a proper studio could easily result in a tragic brain aneurysm. My little 'port-a-studio' has worked well for years and I have no intention of attempting anything more physically elaborate than what you see in the previous post. Photoshopping, on the other hand, appears to offer many benefits, which, until just recently, I had been reluctant to discover. Roll Eyes

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#52755 05/21/2006 09:57 PM
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The other thing that I discovered is that with the coolpix I use, the photoshop "adjustments" always tend to be the same regardless of helmet subject.

Brightness +10, contrast +10 and saturation +10. Every camera is different and with this one I've found the norm.

My studio is a traditional style park bench with a board laying on the seat to catch the top of the art board to hold it in place, with a brick to hold the bottom on the patio.

Then I assume the prone position. Your's looks much more comfortable Big Grin


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Wow Cody.... it's kinda like a miniature Disneyland.... Big Grin


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#52757 05/21/2006 11:01 PM
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Bernie,

Yes, it's much like a tiny Disneyland, only, the E-ticket rides are'nt so tiny. Eek Big Grin

Chris,

Tried the satuaration tool. Subtle but useful. This image has not been reduced with the Hudson method so it therefore lacks the fine resolution possible with his technique, but, the image was color-adjusted, plus, your saturation recommendation applied as well. This is starting to look like the real thing. Thanks.

Cody

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#52758 05/21/2006 11:50 PM
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Glad it worked Cody. If you have the original picture in your camera picture files I'd love to see that shot using all the techniques starting from the raw photo.

Couldn't pick a better subject Cool

All the best,


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#52759 05/22/2006 04:38 PM
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Great thread guys! I'm gonna try to keep up with this stuff and put out better pictures....I need to get photoshop! Regards, Chris

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#52760 05/23/2006 07:26 AM
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Here's the opposite side of the helmet using selective sharpening staying away from the decal when reducing. Adjustments made at the final size using the lasso tool if needed.

The detail in the paint is accented while not over sharpening the decal.

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#52761 05/23/2006 07:54 AM
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Chris great helmet !! Taking your lo rez photo and putting it in photoshop I took the chinstrap as the anchor color and desaturated the picture until the chinstrap color was correct. Selectively sharpened the rest of the helmet.

Gives it a different look. Granted were taking a lo rez and making another lo rez from it but you can see that with photoshop, you can fiddle to the max Big Grin

See how everything else has changed but the decal remains the same.

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#52762 05/23/2006 02:07 PM
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Sorry but the cmaher shot is more aesthetically pleasing...in my opinion.

Robert


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#52763 05/24/2006 04:45 AM
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Cool Chris! I'd like to start taking shots at hi res and scale them down for posting. What photoshop should I get and how much does it cost? I don't want to spend too much....it would come out of my helmet budget! Regards, Chris

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PM me Chris Wink


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#52765 05/24/2006 02:08 PM
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Nice photos make a big difference. Thanks for the tips! Just testing the new procedure.

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#52766 05/24/2006 03:50 PM
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Uhhh! Uhhhh! Uhhhh! Mamma Mia! Mice cammo lid there. Oh and the photography helps too.


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#52767 05/28/2006 02:22 AM
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Thanks Cody!
Great tips!

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#52768 05/28/2006 07:05 PM
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Excellant shot !!


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#52769 05/30/2006 01:36 AM
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Gude ihr leut!

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#52770 05/30/2006 12:25 PM
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Not trying to bother anyone,just having fun with photoshop Big Grin.

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#52771 05/30/2006 12:30 PM
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Martin,

That KM camo is a terrific helmet and one which I owned in 1974. Funny how these things circulate in the small world we helmet collectros inhabit.

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#52773 05/30/2006 12:54 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Cody Grayland:
Martin,

That KM camo is a terrific helmet and one which I owned in 1974. Funny how these things circulate in the small world we helmet collectros inhabit.

Cidy



Thanks Cody,

Terrific helmet indeed! Thank you for the photo tips. Also, thank you inadvance for Ludwig Baer's references. I am anxiously awaiting their arrival!

martin


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#52774 05/30/2006 08:46 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by cmaher55:
Great thread guys! I'm gonna try to keep up with this stuff and put out better pictures....I need to get photoshop! Regards, Chris


do you want photoshop CS2 ?

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Another thing easily done with photoshop is creating floaters Big Grin

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#52776 05/31/2006 04:25 AM
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Gotta love those floaters!!
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