#48402
05/24/2009 12:50 PM
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Does anybody have a late war (1942-1944) SS service list that show that Otto or Ernst Behnke were still alive and listed.Thanks
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it" Santayana
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#48403
05/24/2009 02:21 PM
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He is not in the October or November 1944 lists.
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#48404
05/24/2009 02:30 PM
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Hi Zorro: Neither Ernst or Otto turn up in the SS-Dienstalterslistes after 1938 (I have them all). Otto Behnke (SS No. 3309, b.01 June 1905) is killed 24 September 1939 and is buried: Otto Behnke ruht auf der Kriegsgr�berst�tte in Mainz-Hauptfriedhof (Bundesrepublik Deutschland). Endgrablage: Block 72b Reihe 1 Grab 13 Ernst Behnke (SS No. 7489, b.21 March 1893) is killed 28 January 1945: Trestno, Poland. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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#48405
05/24/2009 03:16 PM
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Wow! I cannot thank you enough for that information guys.Ross would you be able to research Ernst.If you can let me know and I will be in contact with you.
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#48406
05/25/2009 01:08 AM
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Otto has a pretty good reason in why he was not listed after 1938. Ernst was not killed until 1945 so why would he be excluded after 1938 in the service list.
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#48407
05/25/2009 03:53 PM
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His rank was not high enough to be listed in the SS-Dienstalterslistes of the 1940s. With some exception, they list SS-Standartef�hrer and above. Though he was an SS-Untersturmf�hrer in 1938, he is listed as an SS-Rottenf�hrer in the records of his death from 1945. Could be an error or something more. Perhaps further research will reveal the rest of the story. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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#48408
06/02/2009 06:37 AM
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Indicated reduced rank to EM was normally punishment, often found in legal proceedings if one studies SS court records. Wartime DAL only covered Sturmbannf�hrer and Obersturmbannf�rer (Oct 42, Oct 43, and Oct 44) or Standartenf�herer and higher for the other wartime issues with the exception of the Waffen-SS issue for July 1944 that included Hauptsturmf�hrer.
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#48409
06/05/2009 01:02 PM
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After further research into his records, Ernst Behnke was a SS-Untersturmf�hrer in the Allgemeine-SS. When he joins the Waffen-SS in February 1944, he goes in at the rank of SS-Rottenf�hrer which he held at the time of his death. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.com
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#48410
06/15/2009 01:50 AM
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Ross, yes, i was going to say that very few of the rank and file A-SS members retained the rank they held when they joined the Waffen-SS.
The same held true if they joined the Wehrmacht.It would be interesting to see if it worked in reverse when you were invalided out of the service, and rejoined the A-SS...
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