#47797
05/18/2009 01:01 AM
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Assuming these are real, which SS maker used this caster? It does not look like the horseshoe mark, but sort of a thick C with a mark in the center.
Thanks for any help, John
John Merling [email protected]MAX Life member OVMS Life member(Ohio Valley Military Society SOS) OGCA Life member(Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc) NRA Life member
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#47800
05/18/2009 01:17 AM
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#47801
05/18/2009 01:54 AM
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Thanks Dave, that was easy. Do you know the caster company name or did they make theirs in house? John
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#47802
05/18/2009 05:18 PM
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Havent I told in the description that this is s in a horseshoe I know the source of this pair. It is called ground . Yes this two were digged in a ground... It is definitly E.P.& S. regards
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#47803
05/19/2009 03:01 AM
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Maybe it's the age on these that makes it hard to see. But I thought the cast mark looked like a perfectly round circle, whereas the horsehoe mark is not quite round, more oval. Here's a picture I took of a clear cast mark.
John
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#47804
05/19/2009 07:17 AM
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For sure it is an age and "storage conditions" but I can see clearly star on both markings above the horseshoe on this SS crossguards.
regards
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#47805
05/19/2009 05:03 PM
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yes, I think I can too, if I squint...Darn, I was hoping to have a new discovery.
Thanks
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#47806
05/19/2009 06:04 PM
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John, the Horseshoe marking with the S and the star is ONLY found on NPEA and SA Daggers by Horster to date. This is confirmed by looking at THOUSANDS of SA Daggers by Joe Pankowski and myself over many years of collecting. IF anyone has a veteran-acquired piece with another manufacturer using this crossguard marking, we would be most anxious to see and hear about it. Ron Weinand
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#47807
05/19/2009 09:46 PM
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I have an EP&S SS dagger with the Horseshoe+ "8" or "S" markings. It is in the bank, but that is what my notes show.
I bought it from direct from the motel buyer who got it 4 days before from a vet.
Dave
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#47808
08/04/2009 06:22 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Ronald Weinand: John, the Horseshoe marking with the S and the star is ONLY found on NPEA and SA Daggers by Horster to date. This is confirmed by looking at THOUSANDS of SA Daggers by Joe Pankowski and myself over many years of collecting. IF anyone has a veteran-acquired piece with another manufacturer using this crossguard marking, we would be most anxious to see and hear about it. Ron Weinand
I have just found this input and sorry to say but I can not agree. I have an SA E.P&S Rohm dagger with the same inside markings of the crossguards.
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#47809
08/04/2009 11:08 AM
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My friend has here such interesting dagger
a1.jpg (77.74 KB, 153 downloads)
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08/04/2009 11:08 AM
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08/04/2009 11:12 AM
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#47812
08/04/2009 02:14 PM
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In this photo you also see the Horster stylized H on the blade tang. While it bears the Boker TM, I wonder if an interchange occurred between the two? Also, IF other company crossguards had the horseshoe, Star S crossguards, why don't we see it more often?
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#47813
08/04/2009 02:52 PM
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Ron I have the same "H" mark on my Boker.also has the later MM.Can't make out crossguard marks as it's black inside.
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