Translate German to English - Click here to open Altavista's Babel Fish Translator Click here to learn about all those symbols by people's names.

leftlogo.jpg (20709 bytes)

Upgrade to Premium Membership

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#45488 05/05/2009 12:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
S
OP Offline
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
Hi Guys,

I never seen one one like this. Any idea what those numbers mean?
Thanks,
-Serge-



#45489 05/05/2009 12:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
S
OP Offline
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610

#45490 05/05/2009 12:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
S
OP Offline
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610

#45491 05/05/2009 12:25 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
S
OP Offline
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610

#45492 05/05/2009 12:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610
S
OP Offline
S
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,610

#45493 05/05/2009 12:31 AM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,419
Offline
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,419
No idea about the unit marks but really amazing Rudolf Buchel 2nd Luft rig! Eek

#45494 05/06/2009 01:39 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 53
R
Offline
R
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 53
I've seen similar marks related to school markings. Not sure though.

#45495 05/06/2009 02:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,303
Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,303
Wow!
Amazing!!!
I have never seen a marked 2nd Luft!
Could this be a school marking?
F.L./K.P MUST mean something...
Hopefully a native German speaker here can help out.
Fascinating!
A rare maker with a very rare marking!
Congrats,
Johnny


Silver Badge #0398

My Avatar = My dagger security system! wink
#45496 05/06/2009 01:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,403
S
Offline
S
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,403
a nice rare find even without the added marking.

in good condition as well.

#45497 05/06/2009 01:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 201
R
Offline
R
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 201
Hi Wagner, The Markings on your Dagger indicate a Luftwaffe Company headquartered in Henkenhagen, near Kolberg / F. L. Kp 40 = Flugmelde-Leit Kompanie 40. It is quite interesting! I have seen 1st Lufts and Luft Swords with markings like this when a dagger was owned by a training Squadron and issued / "Loaned out" to Cadets for use on dress Occasions but when they did not own one of their own. This is the first 2nd Luft I have seen marked like this. Very Rare type Marking and a Buchel to boot! Congrats!

#45498 05/06/2009 03:38 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,049
A
A J Offline
Offline
A
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,049
Its F L/Kp 48 not 40. as we know similar stampings are commonly seen on Luft First models but whos to say when that stamping was done? I dont like the 8 being a double stamped o our German friends were more regimented than that.IMO someone defaced a really nice Buchel 2nd Luft in an attempt to hump it up ask yourselves why we havent seen others similarly stamped over the years.Is there any provenance info on where it was bought etc available?

#45499 05/06/2009 03:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,049
A
A J Offline
Offline
A
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,049
Correction it is and 8 its stamped upside down!!

#45500 05/06/2009 05:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 201
R
Offline
R
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 201
OOPs, Sorry about that. It is an 8! I was looking at the first picture where it looks like "0". I would disagree with AJ however, I don't necessarily see a problem with a practice that was used prior being continued with a later Model Dagger. The Schools / Training Wings still existed, and I am sure that Cadets STILL didn't have a ton of Money to play with! Once again, Just because an individual has never run across something doesn't mean it didn't exist. Knowing Wagner, I would think he has probably gone to the "Nth" Degree to feel comfortable about it. The Upside Down "8" doesn't bother me! I LIKE it!! FWIW RG88


Link Copied to Clipboard
Popular Topics(Views)
2,211,539 SS Bayonets
1,707,951 Teno Insignia Set
1,074,958 westwall rings
Latest New Threads
RLB P.Wayersberg Dagger, determining originality
by norg - 01/19/2022 05:56 PM
REVISED and UPDATED
by Von Ryan - 01/19/2022 12:25 AM
Tom Wittmann's down in the cellar
by ed773 - 01/17/2022 09:41 PM
1st Pattern RLB
by JRM37007 - 01/16/2022 05:22 PM
BROOCH RUSSIAN ?
by benten - 01/15/2022 08:19 AM
Latest New Posts
RLB P.Wayersberg Dagger, determining originality
by Billy G. - 01/20/2022 07:17 PM
Organizational Pins/Badges. A new beginning.
by Soul72 - 01/20/2022 07:10 PM
SA Moto variant
by Dave - 01/19/2022 07:39 PM
BROOCH RUSSIAN ?
by Mike (aka Byzanti) - 01/19/2022 12:43 PM
REVISED and UPDATED
by Dave - 01/19/2022 03:12 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics31,013
Posts321,348
Members7,093
Most Online5,900
Dec 19th, 2019
Who's Online Now
11 members (Browning1900, Billy G., Soul72, norg, Miroslav, Sarcasmos, ed773, JR, atis, Dave, Mat J), 22 guests, and 80 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5