#43909
12/12/2009 05:36 PM
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Hi all,this is my first post and first dagger. I have just brought this dagger from a dealer . The blade side with the makers mark has non original grind marks ( not ninety degrees to the blade, ). There is also a chip on the handle and some slight damage to the handle by the bottom crossguard.Is it possibly a ground Rohm? Is there any difference between the motto / trademark measurements on a non Rohm or a ground Rohm? Also what do you think of the engraved number?
Any opinions would be gratefully received, thanks, Keith
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#43910
12/12/2009 05:39 PM
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#43911
12/12/2009 05:44 PM
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Trying to upload pics but it says my file size is too big. how do you resize pics on this site, thanks, Keith
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#43912
12/12/2009 06:38 PM
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#43913
12/12/2009 06:44 PM
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This is the biggest photo that the site will let me upload. Is it possible to upload bigger pictures ?
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#43914
12/12/2009 07:06 PM
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get some free ware called irfanview. open picture/ resize using percentage/ then save as a progressive jpg format. you can vary the quality bar until you get an acceptable file size. this can reduce a 3 Mb pic to 100Kb with no major loss of quality unless zoomed into.
hope that helps
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#43915
12/12/2009 07:07 PM
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add.
you can even crop and adjust colours/shade etc a good bit of freeware.
read the help notes to learn.
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#43916
12/12/2009 09:27 PM
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try e-mailing them to yourself first then save and attatch. it will resize them to load in here.
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#43917
12/12/2009 11:33 PM
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Another simple option for resizing: One of our members has graciously made this on-line resizing resource available. http://www.wwiirelics.com/phot...izer/shrinkimage.phpSimply upload your photo, and then re-save to your desktop. Hope this helps. BA
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#43918
12/13/2009 01:14 PM
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12/13/2009 01:16 PM
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12/13/2009 01:20 PM
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12/13/2009 01:22 PM
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12/13/2009 01:24 PM
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12/13/2009 01:25 PM
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12/13/2009 01:27 PM
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12/13/2009 01:28 PM
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12/13/2009 01:30 PM
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12/13/2009 01:33 PM
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Thanks to everyone who replied with re-sizing suggestions. 
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#43929
12/13/2009 03:40 PM
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firsly i am no expert but it looks ok to me and it does look like a ground rohm with the grind marks on the rear of the blade.some of the guys who know alot more than me will be on soon and so no doubt you will find out more then.
regards Adam
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#43930
12/13/2009 06:00 PM
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Hi KW355,
could you post a close-up of the trademark and motto?
Gerd
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#43931
12/13/2009 06:42 PM
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I agree it appears to be a ground Rohm. Notice how the spine on the reverse of the blade does not follow a straight line. It also looks like the entire dagger has been seriously polished, which would concern those who prefer the "unlceaned" look. It appears the dagger is authentic, but, as noted, more photos would better help determine that.
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#43932
12/13/2009 06:53 PM
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Gerd, these are the best pics I have at the moment, sorry the quality is not better.In the hand the motto side does not look so shiny (although it has obviously been polished) and retains about 80% of the cross graining,I just cant seem to take a decent photo of the motto side  Regards, Keith
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#43933
12/13/2009 06:55 PM
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12/13/2009 06:59 PM
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12/13/2009 06:59 PM
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#43937
12/14/2009 04:59 PM
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The dagger looks ok, but not to sure about the
number. I prefer ones that are stamped,rather
than engraved jmo
Regards
John
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#43938
12/15/2009 08:40 PM
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The dagger in question looks authentic to me.
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But as Grumpy noted,it has been (over)polished.
repainted scabbard,fittings,blade and finaly grip polished.
Gerd
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#43939
12/15/2009 10:30 PM
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Hi All: The engraving of the SS number is actually fairly common among the numbered daggers I have examined. The order for applying the number to the Röhm Ehrendolch actually calls for it to be engraved though numerous service daggers are also numbered this way. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.comwww.HistoricGraphics.com
"Making History Personal"- Research for Collectors by a Collector.
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#43940
12/15/2009 10:45 PM
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And the really nice thing is that SS Mann No. 52 764 can be identified and there is a photo of him wearing the dagger! Of the almost 150 SS daggers numbered to NCO/enlisted men that I have identified, only two so far were worn in a portrait by their SS Mann. Enjoy! Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.comwww.HistoricGraphics.com
"Making History Personal"- Research for Collectors by a Collector.
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#43941
12/15/2009 10:59 PM
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Great work there Ross,your the best. So that makes KW355 a very lucky man.congrates are in order on your purchase. 
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#43942
12/16/2009 02:55 AM
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For it being your first dagger you did great!! I wish my first would of been a Ground Rohm SS. An authentic SS is still  an SS. Stay proud1
Historical Stewardship is a Trusted Honor that must be kept!
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#43943
12/16/2009 07:05 PM
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Yes well done,it,s a scary business buying an ss dagger
you should get in touch with Ross.His research will give
you some information about the original owner.
Regards
John
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#43944
12/18/2009 05:11 AM
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Outstanding! It would seem that fortune is indeed smiling on you, KW355.
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#43945
12/18/2009 03:36 PM
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Legit, looks like the front was polished at some point in time, and the reverse looks like it was subjected to an aggressive method of cleaning.
Doug
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