#42004
05/27/2009 12:59 AM
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#42005
05/27/2009 10:31 AM
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#42006
05/27/2009 08:23 PM
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ok no guesse where are the rest of the army gurus????
I guess i'll have to give it away now
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#42007
05/27/2009 08:52 PM
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i'll play
J Dirlam & Sohn
Gary
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#42008
05/27/2009 08:53 PM
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Maybe a C Linder. I heard there was one found once.
Gary
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#42009
05/27/2009 09:22 PM
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Gary,
I believe i misled the masses it is a known maker just a new thread...
That pommel is the best i have ever scene hands down by any maker...
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#42010
05/27/2009 09:24 PM
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i thought from the first photo someone would get it as there are not many makers withthe trademark so far down the blade...
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#42011
05/27/2009 11:50 PM
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I`ll try with a E Pack & Sohne with a small Siegfried figure ? Heer daggers is not my strongest field  LH
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#42012
05/28/2009 12:23 AM
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right on the frikkin money!!!
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#42013
05/28/2009 12:25 AM
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#42014
05/28/2009 12:26 AM
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#42015
05/28/2009 12:38 AM
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Nice guess LH
My favorite army maker is emil voos but this pack makes me think.
1.Early pack slant grip-maker mark close to reverse crossguard refer to the picture that i found on the forum of Janos's Early pack.
2. Early Pack that i have shown here with early fittings and mid period grip, with small Seigfried stamped frather down the blade,also consult Wittmans army book the early pack that he shows is actually one like mine, mid period grip and small sigfried stamped frather down the blade, his has aluminum fittings.
3. Seigfried Pack & Sohn without the large "s"
4. Seigfried Pack & Sohn with the large "s"
So i think you can make a case that Pack & Sohn actually had 4 different trademarks.
I find this quite intriguing, Some of you may say so what but to an army dagger collector this is what we live for.
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#42016
05/28/2009 12:41 AM
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My Pack
or what i will refer to pack 2
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#42017
05/28/2009 12:47 AM
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variation #3
found this one on whermacht awards forum
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#42018
05/28/2009 12:49 AM
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#42019
05/28/2009 01:47 AM
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Roy you gotta love pack-the marks are etched not stamped-are you saying the early marks are different or just positioned different on the blade?
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#42020
05/28/2009 02:05 AM
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Roy I own 6 Packs four with aluminum hilts you can find the initial Pack mark in various combinations (slant-no slant-aluminum hilt-non aluminum hilt) and positions I will be posting pictures of mine on my web sight in the next month or so. I can tell you Most of the aluminum hilts are not seen with slant grips I have seen a few but the majority are not.
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#42021
05/29/2009 12:51 PM
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Tom, same mark different position on the blade thats all, i have owned 8 aluminums by various makers now i am down to 2, they are real stunners
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#42022
05/29/2009 10:45 PM
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Roy sure liked to had that Carl Schmidt aluminum hilt you had years ago.
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#42023
06/01/2009 05:09 PM
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Hi Roy,
what a beautiful dagger!
I have only 2 PAck army daggers. Both of them are very early model, and both have the TM VERY close to the crossguard.
And the Siegfried figures are slightly different: see pic 3.
Congrats, Janos
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06/01/2009 05:10 PM
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#42025
06/01/2009 05:19 PM
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Pic3
Note the little differences between the two Sigfried figures. (creasings on the figure's dress, etc.)
Janos
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#42026
06/01/2009 05:49 PM
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Janos You never cease to amaze.
Wow look at that hand enhacing!!!
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