#41950
01/25/2010 12:32 PM
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Hi! Please, does anybody know to which branch of german Army correspond a R.B. marked combat bayo? no photos avilable this time. Thanks in advance.
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#41951
01/25/2010 04:41 PM
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Nacho,
R.B. numbers were not used on S84/98 bayonets. They were made with S codes, names, then letter codes only.
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#41952
01/25/2010 06:39 PM
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Hi ORPO! Thanks for the response but this one is marked R.B.20 and #3192 in the 'crossguard'and marked Paul Weyersberg & Co on the top of the blade, it also has a number on the blade, unfortunately I can't get permission to make it a photo, regards.
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#41953
01/25/2010 06:54 PM
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Ah... This would be a unit marking then. Possibly a Reichsbahn bayonet but these are generally marked with RBD #. Ask if it is a commercial bayonet without any WaA markings.
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#41954
01/26/2010 01:26 AM
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I have a 1943 German military abbreviations book and it lists the following
Rb===Civil adiministration district; government district.
R.B===Reginental order; Horse cavalry brigade.
TKissinger
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#41955
01/26/2010 04:58 AM
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In my experience the German Railway (Deutsches Reichsbahn) marked combat bayonets (98K - 84/98) tend to be earlier vintage commercial examples with wood grips. Having seen multiple different markings like R.B.D., R.B. (etc). And as George commented on w/o Waffenamts.
With my recollection being that the maker of choice seemed to the Coppel company. P. Weyersberg of course made prewar commercial bayonets as well - predominately as I remember for the Reichs Post. FP
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#41956
01/26/2010 07:25 AM
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Like mentioned by friends, it would be nice to know its dated on spine? is 3 or 1 row P.Weyersberg marking? is on pommel any eagle/WaA digit stamp? best regards,Andy
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#41957
01/28/2010 08:34 AM
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Finally I received some photos of the markings, what do you think? not very neat markings IMO.
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#41958
01/28/2010 08:34 AM
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#41959
01/28/2010 08:43 AM
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I forget...Seller doen't see ant waA markings (in his words) I can appreciate if they are there or not, the photos is not detalied.
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#41960
01/28/2010 08:44 AM
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#41961
01/28/2010 04:46 PM
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Hello, it looks like normal PWCo commercial, maybe there is RBD for Railway police, any stamps on blade spine near crossguard?
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#41962
01/29/2010 06:46 AM
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The seller tell me there's no markings in the spine. I don't read RBD but R.B.20, why it has two different numbers on crossguard & blade?
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#41963
01/29/2010 07:02 AM
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The commerzial contract of Weyersberg have some different string, Your is 17xxx range marked, so we believe 1943/44 period, the 20 is not there on the crossguard, there is R.B 90 but the D is bad stamped on the rivet area, the small number on opposite 3393 could be a postwar or late war inventory number, this PWCo string was determined as police unfortunally post 10000 number there are no police eagles in barell ring of crossguard area. best regards,Andy Ps the screw on grips looks like removed? so its possibly the grips are not correct.
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#41964
01/29/2010 03:05 PM
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Hi Andy! thanks for your quick responses, in all can we resume that this bayo is a late RBD one? For the grips I've also noticed that they probably had been replaced with the bakelite ones, but if it was made in 43-44 the correct ones will be made in wood? Thanks again.
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#41965
01/29/2010 05:26 PM
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The 16XXX range have a red colored plastic, it would be great to look to a detail of the RB markings. The RBD is little strange on a late war bayonet.best regards,Andy
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#41966
02/18/2010 07:13 AM
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Hello Nacho,do You posted the RB piece on Blankwaffen forum? it would be great to look to dissasembled grips. best regards,Andy
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