#41673
10/22/2009 09:37 PM
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Hello gentlemen. I recently was offered by someone to sell my SS dagger. I replied ok and set a price for which he agreed and this was his response. Am I correct in suspecting some akward dealings here like fraud? Thanks for your inputs guys. Cheers, Raul.
"Thank you for the response.I am okay with the price. Just consider the item sold Okie with the condition.My mode of payment will be by certified cashier check in US dollars,because that is the only convenient means for me. Concerning the shipment,my shipper will be at your place for the pick up after you receive the payment,I really wish to be there to check out the item but i don't have chance.Please let me have the following details so that the payment can be made to you . 1:Your Full Name 2:your Full contact Address to mail the check to(Not P.O.Box) , 3:Your Zip code and your Mobile and 4:Land Number so that the payment can be send to you 5:Your lasting price.........okay."
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#41674
10/22/2009 09:41 PM
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Most certainly a scam, do not bite. Craigslist, by chance ? I have gotten identical "offers" from a variety of items. If you are selling, why not post it here ?
Doug
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#41675
10/22/2009 09:55 PM
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Heres a variation I received some weeks ago, I got at least 5 more in my trash folder. This is to officially inform you that we have verified your contract file presently on my desk, and I found out that you have not received your payment.due to necessary Verifications & Procedures. After the board meeting held at our headquarters, we have resolved in finding a solution to the issue, and as you may know, we have arranged your payment through our SWIFT CARD PAYMENT CENTER in Europe, America,Africa and Asia Pacific, which is the instruction given by the Board of Managers. And this instruction is ask to be carried out with immediate effect. This card center will send you an ATM CARD which you will use to withdraw your money on any ATM MACHINE in any part of the world, but the maximum on card is ($41,000.00) Thousand Dollars. So, if you like to receive your fund this way get back with required details (1) Full Name as wanted on Card: (2) Address No P.O.Box) (3) Phone And Fax Number: (4) Date Of Birth: (5) Occupation :
Doug
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#41676
10/22/2009 09:56 PM
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quote: my shipper will be at your place for the pick up after you receive the payment
The above line is used in several scammes of this type. Got an simular offer once. Eaven got an check in the mail from an UK buyer. The check will cash out, but when your bank are going to claim the money from the buyers bank, there will be no money on his account. Naturally they will turn to you to get their money back and you will be charged for that. Best Regards St�le
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#41677
10/22/2009 09:59 PM
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1:Your Full Name....sounds reasonable 2:your Full contact Address to mail the check to(no P.O. Box)....Why no P.O. Box??? 3:Your Zip code and your Mobile and....Reasonable for Zip..questionable for mobile 4:Land Number so that the payment can be send to you....Why are phone #'s needed to mail payment??? 5:Your lasting price.........okay."...No problem there
All in all,I would be very suspicious.His shipper will be at your place to pick it up???Who's his shipper?UPS or somebody off the street??What if his 'shipper' calls your home phone,finds your not home and decides to make a pick-up on his own?If he wants to pick it up in person,arrange a meeting at a place that's NOT your home!Call me paranoid,but I really don't want strangers knowing I have a collection AND knowing where I live.
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#41678
10/22/2009 10:21 PM
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Thank you all for the great input. Yes I also think this is a total scam. Especially with the shipper (thug) coming to my place. And Doug, yeah it was craigs list. These guys are like parasites waiting and fishing for some poor sole to fall into their web. I guess I should ship a box with a butter knife instead haha. Cheers, Raul.
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#41679
10/22/2009 10:32 PM
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Typical Nigerian type scam, right down to the poor English & modus operandi. There is no money at the other end of this email, just a scam waiting to be hatched. What they'll do is try to pay you with some sort of forged check or even bogus US Postal money orders, often for too much money & ask for change. You'll give the item & deposit the checks only to find out they're fake 2 weeks later, to the tune of losing your item & the "change" you gave.
String him along, maybe give the guy an address in another city & let him show up.
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#41680
10/23/2009 01:29 AM
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Give him the address to the local police station.
Never argue with an idiot, he will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. And remember the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
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#41681
10/23/2009 02:30 AM
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this also happened to me,,i received a cashiers check drawn on a Chase bank out of New York,,i took it to my branch of Chase bank and asked one of the people to check out the check,so to speak,,,it was drawn on an account where ONLY CASH & NO CHECKS OF ANY KIND could be drawn against it,,,they kept the check and sent it to their fraud division,,i still have the item in question,,i just hope they nabbed the SOB who perpetrated this scam in NY
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#41682
10/23/2009 03:01 AM
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****** ******* ****** I think I will take the dagger out of craigslist and put it up for sale here. It is the safer thing to do. Raul Best to use more moderate language Dave
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#41683
10/23/2009 04:33 AM
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Unless its a one looker, which it might well be, I would start a discussion thread about it, with as many pics as possible. That way, any potential kinks can be worked out before you sell, and you can refer to the discussion thread when you start a sales thread.
Doug
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#41684
10/23/2009 06:43 PM
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Doug, The dagger is not in pristine condition like so many exemplary pieces shown here but it is a very nice dagger (IMHO). I did show it here a while back. Here is the link. Cheers, Raul. P.S. sorry gentlemen for the language that I exhibited before. I was a bit frustrrated. http://daggers.infopop.cc/eve/...28099473/m/323109382
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#41685
10/23/2009 08:46 PM
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Oh yeah, I remember that one. Should have no problem getting rid of it, depending of course on what you are looking to get.
Doug
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#41686
10/23/2009 10:18 PM
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Got another one today. Hahaha this reminds me of nigeria. enjoy
Good Day, I'm Mr Nathan , from Chicago IL, I came across your advert and am interested in the immediate Purchasing of your (Collectibles) which you offer for sale,Due to the fact that its been a long time have been searching for this (Collectibles), it makes me eager to know maybe you can sale it for me. Please Kindly get back to me as soon as possible with the necessary answers to the question am about to ask below. QUESTION FOR YOU
Are you the first owner? What is the present condition? Where was it currently Located? What's your final asking price? can you hold the item for some days before you get the Payment? And I will also like you to send me Pictures to enable me view and have the pics of what am intending to purchase Can You Complete this Transaction within 3-5 Business days? METHOD OF PAYMENT
My method of payment will be through a Bank Certified Check/Money Order which will have to clear the bank before the item will be pick up.. PICKUP ARRANGEMENT
Am bring this to your notice that the (Collectibles) will be pickup by my Reliable Private Courier Service which has been working with me for years...So don't bother yourself about the Shipping it will be handled without any problem or delay.I will be waiting for your immediate response to proceed further in other to complete the Transaction without any delay....If you are not convenient with any of the above arrangement let me know,and if you are not okay with the process you can delete this message.... Thanks Alot Regards Mr Nathan
ReplyReply AllMove...Inbox
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#41687
10/23/2009 10:32 PM
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Their 2 main hallmarks seems to be payment by cashiers check, and pickup by a reliable carrier ,, Whatever thats supposed to mean. Do they actually have marks working for them in country, to pick up items from ****ers ? Don't know, and don't intend to find out.
I was selling a almost unused, but used, mattress on craigslist, I was surprised to get one of these "offers" on that. WTF, are they going to ship a mattress to Nigeria ? Made me wonder if these are just bots, and in fact send the same lame offer to any add that is run.
Doug
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#41688
10/24/2009 02:02 AM
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Yeah. It kinda wants to make me wait at home for the carrier with about 20 of my friends. Ill actually give the address of a foreclosed house a couple of houses down the block hehe.
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#41689
10/27/2009 02:37 AM
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Check out this one I just got, these jokers will try anything. Dear Confidant, I am Col. Hilton Brooks an Army contractor attached with the U.S Military force in Iraq. [Uh yeah, I kinda figured a Col. would be attached with the US military] On the 2nd day of July 2008, my four (4) workers and I were alerted on the need for some reconstruction works in a buildings built and occupied by Saddam Hussein when he lived,in Baghdad.After a thorough search into the bunker, we saw two boxes safely sealed and hidden, I told my men to open those boxes to ascertain the contents, after they were opened to our amazement the boxes contained some U.S Dollars which amounted to $25 Million after we had counted them. Now I DESPERATELY need a � RELIABLE and TRUSTWORTHY, person who would receive, secure and safe guard these boxes containing the U.S dollars for me up on till my assignment elapses here in Iraq.Be assured of receiving 30% of this fund in the end. Please signify your interest by indicating your names,country and phone number. More Details will be sent to you. With the assurances of my gratitude and compliance to the terms, I remain Yours Respectfully, Col. Hilton Brook Us Army [email protected]
Doug
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#41690
10/27/2009 03:06 AM
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Doug.. what are you waiting for?
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#41691
10/27/2009 03:26 AM
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With an official sounding email like that, its gotta be legit, but I think I'll need some back up if I got $25,000,000 of a crooked colonels $$$ and he comes looking for it - You in ? I'll cut you in for 10% of the 30% !
Doug
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#41692
10/28/2009 06:49 PM
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My god, the worse one yet. How are you today? Hope all is well with you and family?,You may not understand why this mail came to you. We have been having a meeting for the passed 7 months which ended 2 days ago with the then secretary to the UNITED NATIONS. This email is to all the people that have been scammed in any part of the world, the UNITED NATIONS have agreed to compensate them with the sum of USD $500,000 (Five hundred thousand United State Dollars Only).. This includes every foreign contractors that may have not received their contract sum, and people that have had an unfinished transaction or international businesses that failed due to Government problems etc. We found your name in our list and that is why we are contacting you, this have been agreed upon and have been signed. You are advised to contact Mr. Jim Ovia of ZENITH BANK NIGERIA PLC, as he is our representative in Nigeria, contact him immediately for your Cheque/ International Bank Draft of USD$ 500,000 (Five hundred thousand United State Dollars Only. This funds are in a Bank Draft for security purpose ok? so he will send it to you and you can clear it in any bank of your choice. Therefore, you should send him your full Name and telephone number/your correct mailing address where you want him to send the Draft to you. Contact Mr. Jim Ovia immediately for your Cheque: Person to Contact Mr. Jim Ovia Email: [email protected] OR [email protected]Tel: +234-1-873-3513 Fax: +234-802-773-3240 Thanks and God bless you and your family. Hoping to hear from you as soon as you cash your Bank Draft. Making the world a better place. Regards, Mr.. Ban Ki-Moon UN Secretary General
Doug
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#41693
10/28/2009 07:16 PM
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Jeez,Louise... The best one yet by a mile.. Seiler (Yank in UK)
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#41694
10/28/2009 08:01 PM
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I don't know what you guys are waiting for... I have applied for this $500,000 four times already.
I have given them the names and addresses of our local Hell's Angels leaders.
John
Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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