#4037
02/15/2009 05:21 PM
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Has anyone the SS-HR document in the official frame? I would be interested to see how the official frame looks like?
Robert
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#4038
02/16/2009 05:25 AM
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Robert...I did not know there was an Offical
Frame that came with the HR Document.
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#4039
02/16/2009 11:02 PM
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Yes the frame came from one maker located in Munich.
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#4040
02/16/2009 11:39 PM
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According to Don Boyle's first book, the approved maker of the award frames was "GEORG BRAUN MARKT GRAFING, MARKT PLATZ BERLIN. Whether they were the sole official manufacturer, I don't know.
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#4041
02/16/2009 11:42 PM
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Wouldn't it be funny if the "official" TK Ring document FRAME was still in it's original wrapper, and it said, "FITS ANY DOCUMENT!!" ????
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#4042
02/17/2009 12:34 AM
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I recenlty found one document from the SS Hauptamt for the recipient where it is mentioned (registered mail) 1 HR ring, 1 award document, 1 frame. For my view a very interesting record.
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#4043
02/18/2009 01:03 PM
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Well I knew there was a frame as it says in Don's book, but did not know it came with the Document.
It says it could be Purchased,Robert is there a date on the this paper you have?
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#4044
02/20/2009 07:24 PM
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The issue of the frame is covered in my book, which is, incidentally, now available (we get the first copies in tomorrow). I won't spoil the whole treatment of the frame in the book, but Don is correct that in ONE instance, some frames were ordered for SOME documents. We have evidence, which I show in the book. However, the same evidence shows that this was not a "global SS item." Subsequent to the writing of the book, I came across a document in the original shipping envelope (from the SS to the recipient). In this case, it was delivered to the recipient in a regular envelope, with a cardboard insert to protect it from becoming bent.
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#4045
02/21/2009 06:15 AM
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The document is from January 1942 from the SS Führungshauptamt to the receipient.
When I get this group I will send one link to my website about it.
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#4046
02/28/2009 01:12 PM
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here a very nice document from DK winner Eugen Maisenbacher.
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#4047
02/28/2009 02:59 PM
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That is excellent. This further confirms that some documents were indeed delivered with frames (or noodles, if you don't speak German - Rahmen  ).
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#4048
02/28/2009 04:01 PM
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Nice Robert! Thanks for posting...
Big question is ,,,is it just a plain wood frame? ,,or is it something special...
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#4049
02/28/2009 04:54 PM
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I have no Idea how the frame looked like.
I saw and got TK documents loose w/o any frame, and have seen some in whatever frames.
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#4050
03/01/2009 02:45 PM
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Robert,
The picture isn't showing anymore, can you repost it? I haven't seen it & would certainly like to. Thanks
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#4051
03/01/2009 04:08 PM
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#4052
03/02/2009 03:53 AM
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Robert,
Apologies, earlier today, no matter what I did it wouldn't come up. No problem now, thanks for posting it.
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