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Hey Guys,

Just a question here. Has anyone who owns or has seen an over the shoulder Eickhorn Dagger being equipped with a WKC scabbard? Being very late period i could assume that Eickhorn might have not had stock of their own, and maybe used an alternative makers scabbard. Would interest me as I've come across a few very late period daggers that were not textbook for that maker?
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Hello Dion, in few cases EICKHORN did things most collectors look at as "not period" manufactured. I once have owned a -for me doubtless original- unissued EICKHORN navy with a WKC crossguard. Armies by EICKHORN sometimes have the generic B crossguard. In some cases EICKHORN had a kind of cooporation with HOERSTER (eg HJleader daggers or RRPP daggers). So I would say that it is not impossible that EICKHORN did use for their late armies a WKC scabbard although up to now I personally have not seen such a variant.
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50 years ago, we would take daggers and swap parts and scabbards and never gave it a second thought.
The details and tit-tat of today were TOTALLY ignored.

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Originally Posted by Texasuberalles
50 years ago, we would take daggers and swap parts and scabbards and never gave it a second thought.
The details and tit-tat of today were TOTALLY ignored.
Yes, and now it is the time to try to sort out what was done period and what afterwards...
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Thanks for your opinions Gentlemen. Very true statements and I agree. We of course know that scabbards were sometimes swapped around by mistake, especially amoungst the GI's during and after the war while comparing booty. But i also think that towards the end of the manufacturing period, lots of manufacturers, including the big ones, sold and bought to be able to commit to orders, albeit only a few orders! I guess these questions will never really be answered, so I guess, as was stated by Wotan in another thread, one needs to look at the componants and decide whether they have the same patina and whether they were assembled together back then. It certainly wasnt everyday practice that various parts from various producers were used, but I'm convinced this did happen.


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To stay on the save side i would never buy an Alcoso, Eickhorn or Pack army dagger with parts that weren't produced in their own plants.
Patina matches after 50 years + so if swapped in the 60ths, 70ths or even the 80ths you will not be able to tell.

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Originally Posted by Gerrit1963
To stay on the save side i would never buy an Alcoso, Eickhorn or Pack army dagger with parts that weren't produced in their own plants.
Patina matches after 50 years + so if swapped in the 60ths, 70ths or even the 80ths you will not be able to tell.

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Ger raises an excellent point and it’s something we see all the time. Something may have come home from the war exactly as it is but many collectors are put off by something not being “textbook”. I like the unusual especially if it has vet provenance but non-textbook usually means it’s worth less.


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