UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons Hunting, Forestry, and Shooting Forum Rifle Association Cutlass - Gaujagermeister

Opinions on this being 100% wartime era.

https://www.emedals.com/specialcoll...eneral-curt-freiherr-von-gienanth-119377

Hi, Babini,

Welcome. Could you please post the photos here instead of a link ? the links go away.

Thanks
Dave

Well thats a lot of money for a post war dagger with etched Krebs logo, try to find another krebs
Ask yourself the question: Why would a DJS so a Hunting associating award come with a Rifle association dagger?

Not 1 for my collection.

Ger

Here are three pictures.

Two more. The emblem looks much more aged than the rest of the cutlass and the scabbard is in exceptional shape.

Thanks, Babini,

That is a beautiful piece
Dave

It does grab you at first, but they say in the description that the scabbard has an engraved dedication, but I didn't see it pictured. Also there is no picture of the clamshell reverse so one can see if that dingy emblem is the riveted type or the type with prongs, which makes a switch much easier. I never knew Paul Julius Krebs made a cutlass like this. I've seen Red Cross daggers they've made.

As with anything that is not text book you need to have some faith that the piece is as it came from the factory, the etched makers mark on a Krebs doesn't concern me as much as the grip does, it's a strange one and it's a leap of faith that it's original pre 1945, the blade etch looks OK but personally I would need an on hands look before I would know if anything about this piece was from the period it is purported to be from, I would have to see how the clamshell badge is connected, I'm not sure how the badge has gained that much patina and the remainder of the dagger looks very new. Certainly for anybody to pay over $6K for it sight unseen would be brave and certainly would be a leap of faith that I personally wouldn't want to take.

Gary

It is not a fake, but it's simply a postwar shooting cutlass embellished with a badly aged DSV badge. The grip and crossed rifles are of the modern type. TR examples of crossed rifles have pronounced cheek pad on the stock. Furthermore, the maker's logo should be stamped, not etched. My guess is 1970s or 80s production. Not the one to buy if you want to add it to a TR collection...