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#354421 04/21/2022 08:06 PM
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Wanted to show a couple pics of Jim Wallace and Bob Rodgers the biggies of European
Edge Weapons from show at Jag!
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Some of the blades!

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And Chris in middle!

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What kind of daggers were hard finds or your likes guys!

I only had a few in my time! Hungarian,russian navy,Italy
And they never were hard to sell! Wish I knew more!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PVON,,, I'm not a dagger guy but... Seems like there were a million German Armys and 2nd Lufts. made. Same with SAs....

But everything you show in that first photo is very interesting and good looking pieces.. Are they similar in prices to the German counterparts??

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Thanks for the memory Paul. Gaspare. The Non German daggers do not bring the high prices like some of the rare German Pieces, but, a Protectorate dagger will bring $3200. Czeck AF 1100, even Russian daggers which use to sell for about $125 are now 3 to 400. There is a good market and a good collectors base but not as popular as the German Daggers. The real problem with the non Germans is the number of reproductions and fantasy daggers. There has not been near the research as is done on the German daggers so a lot of the modern peices are sold as original.

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Wanted to show a couple pics of Jim Wallace and Bob Rodgers the biggies of European
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Some of the blades!


Man those wer the ddays.

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Well guys how many daggers did you both have? It was a area not well known 25 yrs ago!

Did you get them from counties they were from/

Were many german made?

I saw some really sharpe looking ones you have had!

Bob

You said that you kept many of your best ones!

How many did you have and why did you collect them! Jim also!

Its ok fellas Dave does not charge by the word!!!!!!!

You both were involved in something early and at the hight of the cold war!

Could not have been easy finding such things!



Bob
If you still have many rare ones and you collect other things now!Where would you sell them!

Ebay,shows consignment to dealers,forums?

I would like to know what kind you kept and why! You and Jim
were early into a field of the hobby!

You both were involved with a web site about them! Must be something you both could share!

How did you 2 hook up?

You both have a perception of them due to collecting german daggers and things!

Would like to hear! You both are the Tom Wittmans of the hobby! If Tom never wrote the books we would not know!


Once you 2 are gone from the hobby,much info you both gathered will be lost!


Don't be shy and use finger typing if you must! Thats what I do! HA!!!!!!!!



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Jim

Thanks for starting to explain! You both have a inside knowledge that took a long time to learn!

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Thaks Paul. Collecting non German daggers was particularly fun at the beginning. Most dealers at the shows did not know what they were and they were priced quite low. It was not unusual for me to go to one of the German shows and come back with 10 to 20 good daggers. This was before anyone knew what they were except Kurt Glemser and Bob Berger. At that time I was living in Poland. when I returned to the States in 2000, I found this web site, German Daggers, and Bob and I met here as we were both collecting non German daggers. Bob then started the worlddaggers web site and I helped build it with the 300 daggers I had brought back. I did the non German daggers and bob did the German daggers. We since went through three web hosters.

Most of the non German daggers have examples built by 'German firms. They bring the highest prices, of course. The quality is noticeably better.

As far as knowledge goes. There are now plenty of sources out there. Pretty much every country has a collector who has published a good book on their daggers with much more depth than we ever had.

I believe at this time most of the original daggers are in collections. I have over 20 Danish daggers and intend to publish them soon. I also have the Italian, Polish, Russian, Bulgarian daggers among others that I keep.

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Jim,, I think I'm remembering right.. Didn't you have/had a Ukrainian dagger..

I remember telling my wifes nephew [Ukraine Army] while there about it and him telling me he's never seen one! Was it Navy or army?

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Here is a link to the Naval dagger. When I was buying these we wondered if the manufacturers were just using different colored grips just to sell daggers.

https://worlddaggers.com/ukrainian-navy-dagger-blue-grip-462/

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Awesome looking Dagger Jim!

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Hi Jim

Yes those were fun times!

You and Bob had stuff I never saw!

I thank you for explaing some info on things and times!

Bob had a fire recent with some smoke damage he said!

Figure he is busy right now!\

I would imagine many daggers had hangers,knots,box's etc!

When would be the eary times?

Swords also!
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Thanks PVON

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Maybe Blue handle for Navy,,Black for Army [?].... Not bad looking pieces...

Thanks for posting Jim..

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G, we actually thought there might be additional colored grips for other services such as border patrol, etc. But they never materialized.

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Here's one with an orange grip

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What branch of service is this?

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Not sure Jim


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Tom Johnso always had lots of goodies at a show!


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I remember that fellow


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