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- * A recent email showed up in my SPAM folder..This is it in it's entirity,,,,,but I did block out their contact info!:

"Hello Sir,
All buyer wants WW2 products in correct sizing and colours butt all supplier send product on different colour of fabric and
in different sizing each time.and No one buyer could achieve to solve this problem up till now.But we shall solve your problem,
every order will be same on each time that you would place in correct and same color of fabric and correct sizing.

You will do visit our e-commerce store https:------------------ for pricing and placing test order about WW2 GERMAN PRODUCTS or others.
A Test order will open new doors for you to receving correct and perfect WW2 PRODUCTS at opportunity for great profit for you.
Because We think profit is not in sale of products but in buying at good prices.See our e-store and make a decision.

We deal in All custom sizing without additional charges.
We sell WW2 COLLAR TABS,arm band ,belts and buckles ,field gear, tunics, trousers, parka,long and short coats,jack boots ,shoulder boards etc

We will wait an opportunity from your side."

Best regards,"


- * SO, what I get for it is that IF you have a known good piece and you either send it to them,,OR get is laser scanned and if they have the correct material they can make a copy that is not able to tell the real from the copy!!.... I'd say this is being done already for some time... Same with Badges and medals and other pieces... A warning,,be careful . Those 'experts' who claim they know all the 'variants' all the copies...can tell you what good and whats not are full of sh*t period.

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Who was it from ?

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Years ago after reading Don Bibles booklet on the Police discs I read he hinted about them possibly coming from Poland.. So at the time I was going twice a year to east Europe to do some 'picking'. While in Warsaw I made a contact that lead me to a firm that made the current war decorations for Poland.. I was interested in the 2 Warsaw uprisings and his building was very historic and he was giving me a tour. While there I saw.. Saw big 10 ton presses, small ones, grinders , polishers, chemical baths, gilding and silver wash baths/equipment.

What I didn't see was anything that relates to the Police warrant discs! He got a phone call and said he had to take it and to look around in that room I was already in.... I did wrong,, I overstepped my bounds and started walking around and looking. A what do I find!,,,?,,, Tooling set ups and finished pieces of nazi Silver Wound badges, Silver General assault badges, and design drawings/scans on his PC for the Tanker assault badge.. AND,,a few of already finished Polish WW2 and post war awards , enameled, polished, ribboned up etc. AND,,a few stacks of document /award cards for the medals they already made.... Then suddenly he found me in the room I guess he didn't want me to see.

He got quite mad,,,,actually very mad. I started asking him questions and he shouted out something in Polish.. And very quickly there was 4 very big Polish guys.. Now back then I was in pretty good shape,,,but no one is in 4 big Polish guys shape!.. They threw me around a bit,,,then tossed me out and down a flight if stairs. Worst of all,,then threw my brand new Nikon digi cam down the stairs!! I got away with the usual cuts and bruses.. When back at the hotel trying to fix my cam and it was trashed,,everything but one photo of their front door!! I sent it to Don with the story and didn't hear anything back..

At the time I was very friendly with a member here and he wanted to go picking so I took him to Poland and Ukraine. Hit all the bazars, the annual 'digger show' , Auschwitz, and of course the Polish medal shop. I got him to go in and he was in there for a while and then he too was 'escorted out' ... But he saw the WBs, GABs, and something I didn't see Mothers crosses.... These things were only the silver grade, and they were perfect. It's not brain surgery guys. The had the equipment, materials and figured out the finish for only the 'silver' pieces.... End of story....

Guys,,,always be leary,,never believe the story,,and compare only with known originals.... Happy hunting....,G.

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Dave,, the cloth email I'm pretty sure it was Pakistan.......... They're getting TPI threads per inch,, material analysis, procedure breakdowns, and reverse engineering.

I would say that the only hard part is the right material,,,which when you really try you'll find it as 'money talks',,,very loudly sometimes!!

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Wow, Gaspare, you sure get around.

Thanks for the warning.

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How do they, or anyone for that matter, get 80 years of life put into any item?
That would be the hardest thing to do, in my opinion.
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Ed,

Maybe they let the kids play with them, but, seriously, if you go to MAX or SOS there are high-end dealers with lots of untouched awards and decorations. whistle

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Exactly, I have been to SOS many times, and I know what you mean. How to be sure they are period? Many, and I mean many, look as though they were made yesterday.
Example, the Bronze Stars that were out a few years ago. Story was, they were made for the invasion of Japan that never came about. Were some 70 years old, looked new. I saw full cases.
Uniform jackets have to be a little different to be able to age 70 years of handling and folding and storage, but, you never know.
I'm into Morgan Silver dollars, same thing. Yes, there were filthy rich people back in the 1800s that horded them from daylight.
Like Gas says, they make great repos, beware.
I like the kids idea, would work. I can see the factory in Poland with all the little Nazis running around in uniform, packing the boxes eating there hot polish sausage. Careful of the horseradish.
Ed


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