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Dear forum users. I just started collecting knives of the 3rd Reich. I bought two Hitlerjugend knives with authenticity guarantee from a private seller. The knife without motto is very similar to the original, but the second one has doubts about the grip plates, namely non-magnetic grip rivets and small backlash on the grip plates. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge. Best regards Dan
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Hello Dan ,
your two knives are Ok and I appreciate the marking LFS (Lederwerke Sedina Finkenwald) on the leather of the 1st one .
Congrats to you .
S+
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Your Schuttelhofer (RZM M7/13) appears to be all original. Is the diamond wiggling?
I do worry about the authenticity of the Voos (RZM M7/2): - Those alloy rivets are not what you expect to find on a 1938 Voos made knife. - The stamped marking appears amateurish applied - it shows a too bold diamond.
Is the hilt steel based (magnetic)? Does it has full length or is it shorter compared to the Schuttelhofer?
Best regards,
Herman
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Herman, thank you very much for your response . I will add some more photos of both knives for comparison.
RZM M7/13, the diamond is wiggling,
RZM 7/2 Pommel is not magnetic
Best regards, Dan
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Hello Dan,
Unfortunately, the Voos HJ-knife is not a period one in my opinion:
- The cross grain is also not what we expect, it is too scratchy for a 1938 HJ-knife
- Also compare the rivets and the RZM mark with the Voos HJ-knifes below.
- 99% of the original, early 1938 (mottoed) HJ-knifes still had the steel based (magnetic) hilt.
Best regards,
Herman
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Here is an overview on the authentic RZM marking by Voos.
Best regards,
Herman
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