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Hello

My most recent purchase has been a Paul Weyersberg army dagger.

On this particular dagger the markers mark appears to be set slightly off true to the centre of the blade.

Can anyone tell me if this is this a known irregularity with this maker? I've not seen another Army dagger / maker with the same 'fault'.

I hope I haven't ended up with a parts dagger.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards

Luke

Luke,

Trademarks that are slightly off-center, or rotated, or running uphill or down hill are not limited to any one maker. They are not too common nor are they rare. Most of the ones with a slight shift like yours are not even noticed by most collectors.

Easiest to spot are SS, SA/NSKK, NPEA, RAD etc with a long motto that runs down the blade.

Dave

Perfectly fine, Dave has pretty much summed it up, I love the slant grip

Hello Dave

Thank you for your reply and the explanation. It's good to learn something new (to me) about this subject, and it's interesting to find out that despite the high manufacturing standards there was some room for 'variation'.

Sean - Thank you also for your reply and seconding.

Happy New Year to you both.

Best regards

Luke

Luke,

Thanks. If you study daggers in detail as I have done for many years, you see infinite variations, even in the same dagger by the same manufacturer. The raw parts were machine made but the fit and finish was by hand and therein there is scope for variation.

The trademarks were made by applying a thin coat of wax to a heavy paper. The design was photo-etched into the wax. The paper was laid on the blade and the paper peeled away leaving the wax . Acid was applied and ate the steel where it was not covered by wax. After a period of time, the blade was flushed with (probably) water with a base additive to quickly neutralize the acid. The remaning wax was removed, probably with stream. As the worker was applying the the wax template, it sometimes got slightly rotated or off center. Hence you dagger.

Dave

Very nice slant grip Army by an uncommon maker, this is a desirable piece.

Merlin

Weyersberg used this crossguard early on. The first runs were numbered on the inside. If yours is numbered, you have a real winner, and one of the first few hundred made.
Even if not, that's a real sweet early dagger to be proud of.
Ed

Love those slants!Very nice dagger and thanks for showing it.

Thank you all for your comments and further explanations. I've learnt a lot about this dagger from this short thread.

Unfortunately its not possible to dismantle the dagger any further than the pommel, the grip is stuck firmly to the tang and I don't want to risk forcing it off and breaking it.

I've looked on the inside of the crossguard and there appears to be (this is probably wishful thinking on my part) a mark which looks like a '2' recessed into the inside. What do you think ?

It's difficult to get a good photo but I've attached the best I can take.

Either way I'm very pleased for it to be in my collection.

Best regards

Luke

Nice dagger, I agree very hard to find a Weyersberg slant.
I've had a couple Paul Weyersberg slants and both were numbered, one of those was matching numbers and the other had non matching numbers, I've always wondered if they were always matching numbers of were some put together non matching and are OK like this.

Gary

The Paul Weyersberg army is one of my favorites. If you could post a clear close up of the upper scabbard area (near throat) we could determine if it is a Weyersberg scabbard by the die flaw.
Here is mine: http://phpstack-500133-1593627.clou...&Words=weyersberg&Search=true#Post310816
Thanks, Ron

Hello Ron

Here are a few photos of the scabbard as requested.

Your dagger is very nice, it looks to be in better condition than mine. Do you happen to know what is the rarity of this particular maker for army daggers, what is the likely number produced ?

Best regards

Luke

Thank you. Yes, yours has the "die flaw" which is nice to see with Weyersberg. I am not the expert in numbers but forum member Janos or Heers68 would know. Hopefully they will chime in. Your daggers is as equally as nice. Ron

Luke and Ron
Both, very nice daggers.
A dark slant, and what looks like a glass like. SWEET!!
Thanks for showing both.
Ed

Hey Guys,

I dont wanna hijack this thread, but Ive just noticed how different the Weyersberg scabbards are? My Weyersberg scabbard has a single reverse mounted screw and different scabbard bands, HOWEVER, displays the very same die flaw encountered on their scabbards. Just goes to show, that they used different fittings even though mine is also a tapered tang with slant grip!