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#347731 09/24/2020 07:42 AM
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I ve got a 1st mod Navy dagger with a questionable maker mark to show and ask for opinion
the dagger is in a really nice and aged condition but Spitzer is not a recognised maker

Thanks for your help

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lanner #347732 09/24/2020 07:46 AM
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some more

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lanner #347733 09/24/2020 07:51 AM
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the logo is stamped , the grip has a beautiful aged tone ,darker on the obverse . the guilding is much more present under the silver thread of the portipee
sorry my camera (or probably I ) can` t do any better pics


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lanner #347734 09/24/2020 06:33 PM
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Regarding the logo, it does look etched from the pics. To my untrained eyes, the parts look period but the real Navy guys will have more to say.

You've mentioned the maker being a previously unknown producer for Navy daggers, which is true but sometimes that isn't the whole story. I found an M29 Navy dagger by Richard Herder, also previously unknown for this model. It turned out to be legit so you never know.


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lanner #347777 10/02/2020 07:31 AM
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here are some more pics - I can`t really show the guilding on the pommel under where the knot is and the portipee is so well set on the crossguard that I didn`t want to take it off
There is a P and a 1 or I on the tang , dont know if this relates to a known maker ?
I bought it though I knew it was not a recognised maker but the condition and uniform aging and the quality of the hilt and blade made me believe that it may be genuine , I m not sure about the scabbard though , the rings are very unusual
Thank you for looking and share your opinion

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lanner #347778 10/02/2020 07:34 AM
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more pics

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tang

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scabbard

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lanner #347781 10/02/2020 07:39 AM
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hope this will help
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lanner #347787 10/03/2020 08:19 PM
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Hi guys,
in my opinion the grip has been replaced and the blade initially had no etching and logo, they were made later. I doln?t also like an eyelets.
Best,
Oleg.


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