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#345093 12/12/2019 06:10 AM
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I have a great shape late war Zinc example of this pattern.. Looking for a silver or alloy metal one.....

Been reproduced for may years and hard to find a authentic WW2 one..

SO,, I give everything a chance,,, I see this bad photo.. Has the horizontal lines next to skull etc.,,a solid back,,marked 925,,hey maybe a early one!!

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seems to have the red 'gem' eyes, a early cut,,,but start to look at them hard it starts to not look so good.

Then the photos of the other side!! crazy

Gigantic fault line!!. Now if they would have cleaned it up a bit more,,,then aged to look ground dug they might have gotten over on a unsuspecting collector... Be careful of ALL rings, fine shape or ground dug,,forget stories, being part of a grouping. Look at only the ring , IF your not sure find another and make comparisons,,ask here,,happy hunting guys..

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Gaspare #345098 12/12/2019 02:53 PM
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quick search on eBay will show boatloads of crap repro rings coming from Ukraine Bulgaria etc last few months. Be careful out there, if it sounds or is priced too good to be true it probably is. That being said, there has been a lot of tire kicking and low offering good pieces leaving old collections. No reason to pay premium retail like some big shot dealers charge, but a real piece isn?t usually pennies on the dollar. If it is, be careful.

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Just listed now for example, Ukraine. Probably 30 a day of these flaming turds on daily ebay

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Originally Posted by Mike (aka Byzanti)
Just listed now for example, Ukraine. Probably 30 a day of these flaming turds on daily ebay

Good grief! What a horrible ring. Not even a repro of a known pattern but a complete fantasy ring. $200? What a rip-off.

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It gets worse.. here is one from Israel of all places. I usually make my search limited to USA only, just because of how prevalent it is in these places, but there are frauds everywhere. Use the forum guys. Look- someone has actually bid on this s**t.

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I like the sellers handle..- The Best from Ukraine? sick

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13 bids! Wow.

Gaspare #345111 12/13/2019 11:18 AM
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Let us keep this train wreck rolling. Here is an ?original ? sick from
Russian federation. Only 23 dollars shipping crazy

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From Russia with (not very much) Love

Gaspare #345137 12/18/2019 03:01 AM
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Here is one from right here in the USA! What IS this? An alien?

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?The best from Ukraine? is the seller. I disagree- Ukraine can do and usually does much better than that.

Gaspare #345154 12/21/2019 02:51 AM
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Time to update this thread. Dangerous one here. The corners of the cartouche show how badly reproduced this is in the s**tty details.

Gaspare #345208 12/30/2019 11:26 PM
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No one really ever comments so here we go. A whole pile of steaming turds. Amazing to me-
I Move from time to time my authentic pieces for reasonable prices- no interest. Cheap repros sold as repros? I sold every one I ever had the misfortune of owning. Crap for real prices? Even on waf a smeary steaming turd disappeared in hours for $300 just yesterday. Here are some beauties from the East. Yes gaspare they are here too. But eBay is loaded with this guys junk. Hopefully no honest guy buys one. Crooks thieves and losers? Have at it. All yours.

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Total junk , wow , and they appear to be selling many

Gaspare #345223 12/31/2019 05:21 PM
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Wow, can't imagine whos buying such trash and for that crazy money...

Gaspare #345227 01/01/2020 08:26 AM
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hi members
yes it is mind boggling how these people get away with selling bogas repro rings not period made at all in my opinion the answer is very simple buyers who dont know real from repops buy for less in price where dealers like me sell for a higher price but it is real period made guarenteed if not what i say money back no questions asked then we have people who know thier rings but just cant pay real period prices my motto try and find another reguarless of the price thier choice and please take note anything third reich in condition will all ways be a higher price last please buy from dealers that have good reputations happy new year guys hope all agree with my opinions my private e mail is still nanny1fl@aol.com god bless andy militarynut

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hi guys
take a look at i believe four or five rings out of norwy most all fakes this my experenced opinion now the russians with fake rings have a norweign contact all garbage i bet a cup of coffee they sell to unexperenced people with half brain and money russian clusion again these rings are on whermact forum for sale let me know what you think god bless andy militarynut

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Here is one with bids... shameful. I wonder why I do this- I had a collector take the time to tell me a rare authentic ring I am selling for under 300 was me being a rip-off artist as he found one for half the price somewhere. I say to all of you- if you find an authentic HR for 500 dollars- drop that cash and run like you stole it and congrats on a steal of a price. People spend that much on fakes. Please collectors as cheap as we can all be- it is so exciting when some seller does not know what he has- but to tell a realistically priced and honest as they can be seller- who even links discussions of his pieces on his ads- that they are some ripoff artist who demeans the very hobby they singularly post fake warnings for- is beyond insulting and brainless. You do not like a price? Try asking for a better one or just walk away. A person can price something however they want. But 275 for a rare period piece with a swas is no ripoff. 15k for a cast fake hr with a fake coa is!!!

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hi mike n members
happy new years to every body here mike i have been doing gunshows military shows do you have any idea how many people say to me you have great looking items but your prices are to high i tell them sir my prices are higher yes and the condition is in the high 90 percent condition yes you can take your time there is probly 1,000 tables here you might find better conditioned items then mine but i doubt it also sorry sir i guarentee what i sel try and beat that have a nice day then you have the e bay bull shit i can buy it cheaper go grt it why you trying to buy my items for e bay prices good by we can go on and on we only get what we pay for so saddle up have a great year god bless all andy militarynut

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I would take the criticism immediately if I had dealer prices! Look at any dealer site! 500, 600- these are what folks who do this for a profession charge because without apology- and I do not blame them for this- it is their business. The biggest guys just say it- like pawn stars, wittman,
Ruptured duck- they buy to resell to their customers and they are running a business; they will not pay top dollar or anywhere near it- and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that- this is the way of the world. But I am charging maybe half of that! It is so frustrating to hear such BS criticism once again from one particular country in my own hemisphere. Maybe they are mad about the currency disadvantage I do not know. But guess what- if you even want to buy from an elite collector like gaspare- it is not $50-100 for an authentic and mint rare period piece! So very frustrating!

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Mike,, I'm far from an 'Elite' anything grin , , but yes understand your frustration... It's the game they play,,,don't let them get to you..

quick story,,, sold a SS tag after our flood here when I was clearing out some items. Had a high price but it was a good, rare, SS tag. Buyer asked how I got it. Told him I flew to Warsaw [via Helsinki], traveled to Kiev by train [24hrs] , then traveled hrs to Karkov in a 'Lada' [small Soviet car], spent 2 days sleeping in the mud. Then all that back, and then finally home. Buyer says,,'Wow' was going to try and talk you down a bit but now I'm embarrassed!'....

Now I try and not sell anything. Don't really collect anything anymore. Occasionally will upgrade if I can. .
Recently a member had a ring he just found that I've been looking for over 20 years. Didn't ask what he wanted for it.. He collects a few different things but one area is Italian.. I took one of my very best Italian rings and offered it in trade.. Both of us were very happy..


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