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Hey Guys I just got thi sgreat Eickhorn but am unsure about teh scabbard fit,teh patina matches well but there is a slight gap between scabbard fit and its a really tight pull out,is this too much gap to worry about?The WAF saw no problems but I want more opinions is it an eickhorn scabbard ?there is supposed to be a thicker lip or?
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Nice job of picture taking. I don't like the look of that scabbard fit either. The bottom grip profile and the scabbard lip appear to be quite diferent. This also appears to be an early dagger that's pehaps been mated with a later scabbard even though the scabbard looks to be anodized.
Jim

If it is a very tight fit and with the amount of the gap.It may very well be a changed scabbard.I do not think there is anyway too know for sure.The patinia matching is a good sign it has been that way for a long time.

Everyone over at WAF said not to worry as it is so slight,and Ive been looking at other Eickhorns and SAs too and several have this evenly spaced middle gap.Is this ok or is it definately a scabbard swap?They seem to think it probably came from factory like thi sas its not as obvious as a switch? The patina matches well.

I feel there has been a swap sometime along the line. Mike

why do you say later scabbard?curious?

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Yeah it really stinks I have to return it its such a nice dagger.

Its definately anodized and those are nickel fittings,a later early piece scabbard you mean?

A slight gap may be acceptable, but this one does not look right. It's too wide and the lower guard contour does not seem to fit the throat contour. Also, an overly tight fit is highly unusual on an early political dagger. If it concerns you, return it, because it will always concern you.

Im going to.

yes i agree the gap is just to hard to live with i looked at all my ekhorns which is 10in number and i did'nt have any like this plus the pull.I had an ss that was an hard pulling but i could never get past the fact it was not right so i just sold it.

I have seen dagger with more gap between scababrd and crossguar and there were directly from the family of the SA-man. In my opinion it COULD be the right scabbard.

Yeah even though teh dagger was gorgeous I CANT LIVE WITH THE GAP iM SURE SOMEONE ELSE WONT BE SO FINICKY BUT I LIKE MY STUFF PERFECT AS POSSIBLE.iT JUST BUGGED ME TO TEH POINT OF SURRENDER.

I noticed also on the upper Scabbard mount across from the ring the screw is not in all the way in and not straight. From what I can see in the photo.

North of 55 is right! It seems that the screw is a little out,,Examine the whole dagger "closely". Look for turning scratches or gouges on top of the screw and below it. If that is the case, then someone before you switched your upper scabard fitting. You will be able to tell a difference between surface scratches ( That comes from normal wear ) and the heavier scratches that I mentioned above. Also check the top of your crossguard, where the tang nut is, to see if it has been opened. Another indication iof that is a circular swirl mark that it might have been opened. Nice dagger though from what I can see. Best Larry

yeah sent it back although teh dagger itself was beautiful couldnt handle a wrong scabbard ,lost a little bit with transaction but worth it than having that uncomfortable "not right " feeling in your gut til doomsday.
Anyway LOOKING for a MINTY EARLY ONE GOT SOME MONEY HERE READY !! ANYONE SELLING??? USA preferably.ANY early maker is FINE no rzm pieces please.Im a uniform guy who needs a minty one for my tunic.You can pm me here or email me at [email protected] guys!

It's only a guess, but it could be the original scabbard was missing or damaged. Someone wanted the scabbard to match the dagger in its fine condition. Unfortunately, they didn't match up. He may have tried to put the original throat and upper fitting on the "new" scabbard, but the contour of the upper edge of the scabbard may not have accomodated the original throat and upper fitting. In any case, I think you were wise to return it.