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hi everyone
ive never seen a silver 800 stamped HJ leaders ring before. and the ges gesch Marking on the silver plated alpacca version has B.V.A and this one is just B.A. stamping. looks very worn and the eagles head looks blahhh..looks fake to me.
any thoughts?
cheers Todd
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I agree, for me a fake too.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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I may be missing the obvious, but what made it HJ to begin with?
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hi todd
sorry to say i agree with every one else who said this ring is a copy if you want to see more of these fakes reddick enterprises sells these rings sorry for the bad news also ps they call this ring h j leaders ring where they got h j from ill never know thanks for takeing the time to show us here god bless andy militarynut
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thanks guys! i never purchased the ring but saw it for sale and wanted you guys opinions on it. And texassuperalles its a leaders HJ ring. This was an issue to lads who had, through their personal achievements, attained the rank of "leader." in the HJ.
cheers Todd
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Todd, That makes you the leader on H J advice then.
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Todd, That makes you the leader on H J advice then. This pattern is a awarded ring for HJ-leaders. Award docs are around.
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
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don't know IF official or just semi official but Odals right. There are a couple of good period award documents for it. Never seen it listed in a Soldbuch [yet] or on a death notice etc.
This one,,,let someone else get it.......
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anyone can show us docs about HJ ring ?
never saw it
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I have a nice scan of one, but i am not allowed to show it. Otherwise i am sure if you will wait some more weeks more you will see one in G`s book. 
�Eine gewaltt�tige, herrische, unerschrockene, grausame Jugend will ich. Jugend muss das alles sein. Schmerzen muss sie ertragen. Es darf nichts Schwaches und Z�rtliches an ihr sein. Das freie, herrliche Raubtier muss wieder
aus ihren Augen blitzen."
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it is one of the rarest documents of the 3rd reich! Only a few known to be out there..
Many ask where the design came from,,,it IS a HJ emblem:
HJ unit trumpet banner -
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Fantastic and fascinating thank you for the knowledge
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very cool gaspare! thanks!
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