#35668
02/03/2010 08:21 PM
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I bought this dagger from auction. I was not able to find the same exact maker mark. Is it good or bad.
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#35669
02/03/2010 08:22 PM
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#35670
02/03/2010 08:25 PM
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#35671
02/03/2010 08:26 PM
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02/03/2010 08:30 PM
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#35673
02/03/2010 10:22 PM
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In my opinion the blade is a fake, maker mark has differences to original ones.
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#35674
02/04/2010 06:12 AM
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Additional pictures
Blade width is 32.5 mm
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#35675
02/04/2010 06:13 AM
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#35676
02/04/2010 06:14 AM
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Between crossguard and motto -27 mm
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#35677
02/04/2010 06:17 AM
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Between crossguard and maker mark - 6 mm
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#35678
02/04/2010 06:22 AM
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I was trying to compare 1198/39 to this dagger maker mark
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#35679
02/04/2010 01:20 PM
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#35680
02/05/2010 04:56 AM
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I have purchased and sold many daggers online and I have seen this same dagger before. It also had the same brass eagle that this one has. The dagger in my opinion is an authentic WW2 German dagger but the blade looks like it has alot of pitting and the handle looks polished. So if its going to cost you more than $1,200 I would pass even though you don't see many with the brass eagle.
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#35681
02/05/2010 07:04 AM
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I believe that the eagle is of copper,not brass
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#35682
02/05/2010 01:48 PM
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As MM says Copper Eagle and I do not like the blade.
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#35683
02/06/2010 04:49 PM
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02/06/2010 04:50 PM
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02/06/2010 04:52 PM
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02/06/2010 04:53 PM
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02/06/2010 04:54 PM
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02/06/2010 04:56 PM
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02/06/2010 04:57 PM
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02/06/2010 04:59 PM
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02/06/2010 05:01 PM
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02/06/2010 05:03 PM
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#35693
02/06/2010 05:04 PM
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Maker mark from different angle
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#35694
02/06/2010 05:06 PM
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02/06/2010 05:08 PM
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The handle from other side
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#35696
02/07/2010 12:06 AM
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I would not buy this dagger myself  1. The blade is too narrow. I have measured - with a digital caliper - many blades. From what I have seen they must be a minimum of 33mm wide with 33.5 - 34.2 being the norm. 2. It has an SA crossguard 3. The bottom hole of the grip has been very badly reworked. That is NOT the way it left the factory. Those I am sure about looking at the pictures. What needs more examination are the eagle, rune button and blade etching. Dave
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#35697
02/07/2010 01:10 AM
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The real mystery to me here is motivation. Why would someone go thru the trouble of making up a fake in this condition?
Jim
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#35698
02/07/2010 02:27 AM
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This is a real SS German dagger in my opinion that has been restored more than ounce. People should learn to store there family treasures better. I would not pay more than $1000 in this condition
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#35699
02/07/2010 02:39 AM
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this dagger looks authentic,a little rough but id be interested.is it for sale?please email me back.
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#35700
02/09/2010 06:54 PM
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I found 1198/40 maker mark for comparision. It looks completely different. Any opinions?
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#35701
02/09/2010 07:35 PM
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02/09/2010 10:27 PM
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#35703
02/09/2010 10:33 PM
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Unfortunately for me it does not look the same. The size, the font are different. quote: Originally posted by daggerguy:
Looks exactly the same?
quote: Originally posted by daggerguy:
The dagger in my opinion is an authentic WW2 German dagger but the blade looks like it has alot of pitting and the handle looks polished.
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#35704
02/17/2010 01:13 AM
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quote: Originally posted by jim m:
The real mystery to me here is motivation. Why would someone go thru the trouble of making up a fake in this condition?
Jim
This guys only motivation apparently is ripping daggers apart to make them ebay friendly http://shop.ebay.com/burmakin/...&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340[For future reference, his auction page shows 5 blades, 3 scabbards including the SS that was with the dagger in this thread, and 3 sets of fittings].
Doug
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#35705
02/17/2010 03:30 AM
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The black scabbard and crossgaurds are the same he has listed here asking good or bad but sells the parts on ebay as real? ebay item #290402044186
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#35706
02/17/2010 04:28 PM
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1. I did not put the crossguards from this dagger on Ebay. 2. If you have any doubts about the scabbard, please post it here. 3. If I'm not mistaken you were the one who wrote here that this dagger is "100% authentic". quote: Originally posted by daggerguy:
The black scabbard and crossgaurds are the same he has listed here asking good or bad but sells the parts on ebay as real? ebay item #290402044186
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#35707
02/17/2010 04:35 PM
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Should I ask for someones permission to sell a dagger parts on Ebay? Am I selling any suspicious (fake) items? It's not my fault that Ebay does not allow to sell these daggers other than by parts. If have any doubts about the SS scabbard ,please post it here and I'll remove it from Ebay. Thanks quote: Originally posted by Skynyrd: quote: Originally posted by jim m:
The real mystery to me here is motivation. Why would someone go thru the trouble of making up a fake in this condition?
Jim
This guys only motivation apparently is ripping daggers apart to make them ebay friendly [For future reference, his auction page shows 5 blades, 3 scabbards including the SS that was with the dagger in this thread, and 3 sets of fittings].
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