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#3066 03/13/2009 06:25 PM
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I am not a uniform guy so I need a little help.Can anyone tell me if there are known examples of SA kepis with sewn on bevo eagles instead of metal ones? Thanks Geoff. Confused

#3067 03/13/2009 06:36 PM
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I just saw a kepi with a cloth eagle a couple posts down from this one. I had never seen it, but it seemed to get the thumbs up! Check it out.

Harry

#3068 03/13/2009 07:37 PM
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Thanks Harry! would you happen to know what Gau
is indicated by a dark green upper?

#3069 03/13/2009 09:01 PM
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I believe it's called something else, like "Lagermutze". It looks like a Kepi, but I think it's made to be folded flat. That particular style kepi has this cloth kind of eagle, and I think it's in silver thread. Dark green would be either gruppe Kurpfalz or Nordsee.

#3070 03/14/2009 12:02 PM
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These type of kepis are called Lagermutze and were made of softer and less rigid construction, and for that reason their National Emblems were sewn on.
This is a Hochland one that used to be in my collection.

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#3071 03/14/2009 04:52 PM
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Nice cap Tristan...have you more details?

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Sebastien.

#3072 03/14/2009 06:30 PM
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I may have an oppertunity to puschase the kepi and want to make a fair offer as there are other Items with the kepi any help with a ballpark fair price would be appreciated.Thanks to all for the help.condition is good I just dont want to insult anyone by not even coming close if my offer is fair the other items may land in my lap.Thanks Geoff.

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HI Geoff...I dont have other photos as I sold this last year for 450. These are rare SA items, and a dealer would ask more but that is a good ball park figure.

#3074 03/14/2009 09:50 PM
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Thank you all for your help! Wish me luck....

#3075 03/27/2009 04:54 AM
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Got lucky! nailed the trunk which also contained K98 grenade launcher, WWI crank handle bayonet/fighting knife,Eickhorn dress bayo w/frog ,K98 bayo/w/frog missmatched Springfield bayo,Soldbk,coins,paper money,ordinance manuals -German and Japanese.Tinnies a few medals ,Hat badges etc.still hoping for an Imperial Degan ,a Kriegs dagger and a tunic of some kind!!Its in a moth proof bag!!Hope it matches the Lagermutze!!I need help with the Gruppe for this color green!!Thanks Geoff.

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#3076 03/27/2009 03:18 PM
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A lovely cap!! Looks like Nordmark Gruppe colour.

#3077 03/27/2009 03:19 PM
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...Sorry....but with silver button, would be Sachsen.

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THE TOP COLOR FROM YOUR IMAGE APPEARS TO BE STAHLGRUN OR STEEL GREEN. COLOR IS TRICKY TO JUDGE JUST FROM A PHOTOGRAPH. IF THIS IS THE CASE, THE CAP WOULD BE FROM GRUPPE KURPFALZ. IF THE CAP WAS MADE DURING THE WAR, IT ALSO COULD BE FROM GRUPPE NORDSEE AS THE KEPI BUTTON COLORS WERE STANDARDIZED ALL TO SILVER AFTER 1940.
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#3079 03/27/2009 07:42 PM
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If the colors in the photo are true, the green seems too bright to be "Steel Green". Compare the green to my Kurpfalz tunic shown below.

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Another 'steel green" example..

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Another...

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This last example appears to be "Emerald".

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#3083 03/28/2009 05:23 AM
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Thank all you gentlemen for your replys.The Lagermutze has an RZM tag which has Hersteller and A nr.352311 the color of the green top appears in person more like the emerald green on the collar tab posted by Josias. In my opinion the color is like an American Pool table green.Simple crayola GREEN.Any further comments are welcomed .Thanks Geoff.

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I feel confident then, that your kepi is gruppe Sachsen, since the green is that bright. However, check the button closely to make sure it's not gold that has faded, making the kepi Gruppe Nordmark instead. (Of course, you'll never know if the button was changed.) Look at the inside for evidence of perhaps a different button attachment device that was there previously. I believe the button should be pebbled, according to one of the kepi experts. Stunning Cap!!!!

#3085 06/11/2009 07:09 AM
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Help Please!! My friend and teammate in relic hunting happened to call the gentleman we bought the war chest from.He said he was glad to hear from him because he had lost our number!!He has returned from South Louisiana with a load of loot!2 tunics one matching the lagermutze I posted earlier and another tunic.I am trying to not get too excited but,If the tunic matches the Lagermutz I will flip out!!any help with a ball park price for such a tunic would be very helpful Thanks Geoff.


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