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Hello all,

Picked this one up (off a Klaas with a relic blade) and some believe it to be a postwar produced Horster piece, any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.

William Kramer

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Looks like a typical Generic 'B' cross guard imo

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I agree with Fitzer, it's a generic B crossguard.

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Oleg.


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Post war from an early 60's repro...........

The tang hole and brushed base metal appearance are the giveaways for me!.

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I have definately seen some repo 60's guards based on the Gen B..
degens, when you get a chance, would you put a legit "B" next to your fake example for comparison? Kevin.


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Here my army dagger by Carl Julius Krebs with a Generic B.
Regards, Oleg.

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Kevin,
As you know the Generic type B was a later cross-guard and 95% of them will have a tang hole cut or filed to accept a shouldered tang blade.
The one posted above has a machine punched perfectly rectangular clearance hole with no sign of filing or hand fitting, milled for a tapered tang blade which is over-sized, typical of the early 60's reproductions.

These copies are extremely convincing regarding the detailing of the eagle. The comparison original cross-guard is from a period Generic B Christianswerk matched with a tapered tang blade, also pictured is the over-sized tapered tang of the reproduction dagger.





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Now that really was educational. Have not come across that before but not (thankfully) had or handled a repro and generally speaking I am not a fan of daggers with generic parts. The one single factor that has deterred me from any etched blade heer daggers. Lovely blades married with awful fittings that are as exciting as a wet weekend in Bognor Regis.


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Thanks for the info, learned something new again

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Thanks you Degens, great comparison here! I see now just how oversized the tang opening is! Also easy to pick out the "flat" appearance of the silvered finish..

Landser, LOL! I feel the same way about the etched Heer's, All I can think is, "how many great early hand enhanced Heer's can I get for the $$ they are asking for this thing??" crazy Kevin.

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... educational post, Degens, thank you.

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would like to thank Degens for the help with this one and to all that gave feedback. To show what the underside looks like for reference I am adding these photos. I really appreciate the help, all!

William Kramer

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