UBB.threads Forums Edged Weapons SA & NSKK Dagger Forum Fair value early SA dagger

New to the forum. I've been seriously collecting less than a year. Looking to learn the ropes. Can anyone tell me how to determine fair value for artifacts? Just offered $250 for this dagger buy an online dealer. Is that a fair price or is it low? I was not looking to sell was just looking for appraisal.

To buy that dagger you would have to pay at least $650 and probably more. The blade looks very good and the entire dagger looks original. The scabbard is not the greatest, but it is a nice piece. An offer of $250 is not very generous.

Can you tell who the "online dealer" might be?

And, if you need a value, folks here are generous with their opinions.

Dave

Dave drop me a PM or email me rspenc@tampabay.rr.com for the name. I was always told if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything, at least not in public.

I think Dave is a bit high. Because of the scabbard, I would figure $500/$550.

Nice looking Dagger.

Are those the values you would expect to receive from a dealer or is that a collector to collector value? I do realize that a dealer must have a profit margin to cover overhead.

Dealer you can expect a 25-100% markup on collector prices, so the moral of the story is its much better to buy from a collector when able.
If you had that dagger and were selling it you could easily get $500, possibly $600, so yes your offer was low ball.

I think Daves assessment is quite fair for the producer and the condition it is in. $250 is an insult... JMO....... Junkie late RZM daggers fetch more..or.... If early SA s get $250,,,then late RZMs get $50 ? Its good Ron that you brought it here..there is alot of threads to read through and and great study of the various dagger types. Regards Larry

$250 for this dagger is maybe late 1980's prices . Good looking dagger .

I THINK YOU SHOULD TELL DAVE YOUR SORRY. DON'T ASK FOR AN OPINION AND THEN GET MAD WHEN YOU GET ONE.

Thanks everyone for your responses. i now have a better idea as to the daggers value. Lot's of learning to do.

Bob, I didn't notice anyone getting out of line, I think you misunderstood.

Ron, no harm in making an offer, but yes it would pay to get educated on what a reasonable offer would be to avoid offending anyone with what they consider to be insulting lowball offers. Much depends on condition & originality, but there are other factors such as date it was made, and even made by who, some makers are rarer than others and can command a premium. Early daggers were made better and almost always have individual maker marks, as the war progressed they became more generic, being stamped with RZM instead of maker marks, and they used inferior metals which are much more prone to pitting and rusting. So earlier daggers, like this one, would command a higher price than a comparable later model RZM.
Unique features also count, an average dagger in average condition with average parts may go for $400-$500, but if it has a nice tiger striped grip or part of the Röhm dedication still visible, that alone may jack the price up $100's.