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Just when I was complaining about not being able to find anything new for my collection, I stumbled onto this one at a gun show about 50 mile from home. Funny thing was that the owner was from my home town.

That is my favorite etch EVER! on my favorite shorty too ! I liked you terry, Now i love you too Great bayo !!!!!!!

Wow, Terry you are one lucky guy! To be able to find this great etch in such a great condition, on a mint bayonet is just pleasure for the eyes! Beautiful.

JAN

This is amazing. It looks really good. I know soldiers were allowed to alter gear that was standard issue. But these daggers, it was OK to etch? You guys know much more about this than me... Is there a way to make sure the etching is authentic? This piece looks nice.

mp j

Yes there are several Dress bayonets with etched pannels. No one is sure why these were purchased. Wayne T. offers 3 possible reasons why and who would buy these.

1. Militiary personal retiring from the military.

2. End of enlistment

3. Continuous Service.

If you don't have Waynes book, buy one, it has a lot of interesting pictures of the good etchs and some of the repros that are floating around.

I continue to be the neophite, but dress bayos or daggers are the exception it appears with etched blades. I'm glad my interest (currently) is combat-related and WW2 centered.

Regards!

mpj , where do you live?

Hi.

I live in Wisconsin, U.S.A.

I'm also very new to this and ask a lot of questions. I have a lot to learn. My goal is to put together a group of five nice German bayonets for display and possible entrance as antiques in the county fair. I have two. I'll be putting photos online soon. I'm sure these will be very elementary for you guys, but I'm in awe. There's a lot of knowledge out there! I'm 95 percent+ German lineage.

I thought i lived out in the sticks i hear it is a bute of a place (plain fields)?

Gorgeous bayo Terry.

That's a wonderful piece for sure. Love it!

Here's one of the pieces that came in this past December, a nice sawback. Unusual crossguard though, 3R era maker mark but the crossguard is the standard KS98 type. What gives?

Here's a little better shot which explains that it isn't a standard fire bayonet. A copper sword grip emblem on the grip plate?

This piece has all the facets these scarcely seen pieces are said to display primarily a late unplated hilt with a copper sword police emblem pinned to the obverse grip plate. This bayonet also has a nice mint sawback blade, some have been seen with plain blades (Clamshells & other German bayonets, Walker & Weinand). This one is WKC marked on the obverse, some have been seen by WKC & others unmarked.

Also of interest is the original frog which has a crossword puzzle type pattern in the material, you can see some of it in the picture. It also has a rubber smell to it. I've read that some late war frogs were constructed from rubber parts so I presume this is one of them. Has anyone seen this type frog?

Many thanks to Gary Southgate & Willi Warda for their instrumental help in getting this piece across the pond to me. You guys are the best!

Billy

Check page 131 of Ron W. & Gary W. book on Dress bayonets. Looks to be the same except yours have the saw blade. Very nice pick-up. Seems like a late war Police-Fire bayonet.

Hey Terry,

I passed on one from the Olde Brigade about 8 years ago & have been kicking myself since. I would have settled for a plain unmarked blade but got lucky. Paid dearly for it but I'm happy nevertheless

Billy:

So, this is the lump of coal that you were griping about?

I think your coal turned into a diamond.

You are correct, Gary and Bill are among the good guys in this hobby.

Mpj: You can find etched blades on many types of daggers, not just bayonets. Armies, Luftwaffes, Hunting, Forestry, Shooting, SAs... now some of these etches are very rare and most of them have been faked in some way or other.

As Terry suggested, buy books before spending and risking your money on buying blades.

John

Terry:

I forgot to say... NICE etch! And, even better blade.

Will you be at the SOS with Denny?

John

John

Will be there. Denny took pity on this old man a couple years ago and let me use one of his chairs, and now I have become a leech.
I have always wanted one with this style of book ends.

To Will:

Where I live in Western Wisconsin is the driftless region, so we have unglaciated topography. The region is largely made up of coulees, ridges and valleys. I live about 25 miles east of the Mississippi River.

We are an agricultural area, but the topography is fairly vertical in places. It was -15 when I woke up this morning.

To Johnz: I will keep reading and learning. I'm starting small, and my interest lies in WWII combat bayonets. I have a couple books to pick up before I buy another bayonet... Thank you for the advice.

Terry,
To my knowledge, that's the first item other than beef jerky to surface at that show in the last 15 years. I'm almost sorry I stopped attending about 10 years ago. Nice catch!!!

Denny

I was really surprised to find anything myself. It was a good thing I got to it before my brother did or I would be showing you my brothers bayonet instead of mine if had seen it first.

Terry, wow killer bayo. I have a so-so one by Klaas on a Hack-werk Steyr. The etch is the same as yours. note the placement the 'AN' after the swaz. look at Wayne's book p. 232 then p.256 for a unattributed one with same style of placement. what is the TM? also note the book end goes up, and not down.



mpj_ sorry bad news. but 5 bayos = becomes 10, and before you know it you are looking for a bigger room they breed like rabbits

steve,

Steven, nice piece you have there. I like Hack etched bayonets and had never seen one like yours before. Oh yes, mine has no TM.

Terry,

I've seen Steve's Hackwerk before, it's a beauty & I don't blame him for picking it up. The piece you posted isn't half bad either Nicely done

Thanks Terry.

I thought post a pic of Wayne photo of p.232 in Wayne's book German etched dress bayonets (Wayne I hope you dont mind) for those that dont have it. If not you need to get a copy a lot of good info there.


you can see some of the sudtle differences between the one's pictured. And the one's Terry and I have shown. in the book they are on the reverse. and ours are on the obverse.

Billy, I love the new one you have there. I think it may need a new home someday in Texas

steve

Mine is like the one pictured on page 256 of Waynes book.