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Howdy all - mainly a bayo collector these days but this caught my eye. I know these Eick's were reissued but these are a few things that don't look right to me. Including the hanger - appreciate some feedback on this as its worth a pretty penny...
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The hanger appears to be a fake. I would not buy it, if it were sold alone. The cross guard could be authentic, but I doubt it came with the dagger originally. The blade shows a 1936 manufacturing date, which means it could have had a nickel-silver guard originally. However, the district mark, Roman numeral I, had pretty much been faxed out by the time most RZM marked blades appeared. There are exceptions, but I'm not convinced this is one. The guard area around the numbers looks as though it was filed, ground, or otherwise distorted, perhaps to make the blade shoulders fit. You would not see this on a factory original dagger with nickel-silver guards. The lower scabbard fitting could be plated. It's difficult to tell. That, in itself, is not necessarily a "red flag" for a 1936 dagger, but it is a point to consider. The screws on the lower fitting are the type with flat heads. These are normally seen on very early political daggers and were phased out prior to 1936 for the most part, if not totally. This dagger, baded on the photos, which do not depict the entire dagger, is highly suspect, at best. I would not purchase the dagger. Other than the hanger, it appears to be a "parts" dagger.
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I don't like it @ all.The vertical,motto,TM,Grip...to name a few.
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The dagger is a repro.. laser etched blade, fake grip pin and eagle ,sorry..
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Im in agreement guys........ bogus dagger altogether and definately a dangerous one that.
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Who is selling the dagger ?
Dave
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How was the SS No. 305 141 ever connected to Dr. Ernst-Roberts (Grawitz)? The recipient of that Ausweis number is currently unknown. Based on the Rasse-und-Seidlungshauptamt records this number range was also assigned around Oct. 1938. Ross Kelbaugh www.ssdaggers.comwww.ss-numbers.comwww.HistoricGraphics.com
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Who is selling the dagger ?
Dave It's on german egun.
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Who is selling the dagger ?
Dave ... it was listed on Egun.de with the #4400610. But it has been deleted. Best; Hermann
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The whole grip and the burnishing in the motto and logo speaks in volumes of it being recent
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Thanks all - oh and Ross the 0 is supposed to be a 6 according the seller....
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I dont like anything about this dagger including the hanger .
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The entire dagger, scabbard, hanger etal, are absolutely post war components.
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