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Thanks for showing John! Please tell us what you know about a funeral dagger! I had heard about them but really don't know background about them! Is this the Railroad funeral dagger? Ok just kidding! Will start a thread on this one! 
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There is some dispute about whether the black gripped Klaas Luft2 is just that or the 'funeral dagger'.
There is the picture I remember seeing of a Luft funeral where the mourners were showing their ordinary gripped Luft2s.
I personally think that this is just a grip colour variation confined to only a few daggers, mostly by Klaas.
That being said, I have in my collection a black gripped Eickhorn Navy.
John
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Would love to know if anyone else has had a 3rd Reich black griped Navy...
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Thanks for showing John
Glass grip Tiger! Frozen juice are a fan favorite!
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Paul, Nice frozen orange juice tiger there, along with all the other great blades in this thread. How about a Deep-Purple Luft 2 by Holler. Serge  
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I have seen a photo of Eric Hartmann's wedding where he is leaving the church with an arch created by Luft 2nd Mod. Daggers and you can tell that one of them has a black grip, so they were a purchased non-funeral dagger variety IMO.
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I have seen a photo of Eric Hartmann's wedding where he is leaving the church with an arch created by Luft 2nd Mod. Daggers and you can tell that one of them has a black grip, so they were a purchased non-funeral dagger variety IMO. I concur with Ron. I've seen that photo also and it's undeniably a black gripped 2nd Luft dagger. Same for Army daggers. There are other legit companies besides Klaas that made a black gripped Army dagger grip (that were solid black celluloid, never been painted). -JMO, and I'm sticking to it. (Note this is not a Klaas grip on this 'Dog' Paul Seilheimer) -Serge-  
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Great dagger Serge! Love that purple handle!
Ron
I saw that pic also! But if they were made and pics prove it was were are they?
There has to be more vet found!
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How about your hotel buys? Any?
Woder what Johnson or Tom W says?
Serge
That black handle is something! Hope others chime in or maybe in future we will learn more!
Thanks for showing Serge!
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Would like to know what Tom K has to say!
We really lost many army collectors over the yrs!
Denny Roach,Ford, Bob Rodgers, had great collections! Maybe in old threads!
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Would love to hear from Galien or Houston as they for sure
have been around and seen alot of fine daggers!
And have owned so many fine daggers!!
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WOW, Pvon, that glass grip is in great shape! Hard to find that condition...
Serge, That Holler Luft grip is really unusual,really looks purple! Have you looked at the top and bottom of the grip that is under the fittings?? The Sielheimer is great, that MM alone is special, but along with that grip..amazing!! Well done..Kevin.
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Lets keep this going! More goodies!
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"What makes you want a dagger!Color grip,maker,mint" - I would say: ALL TOGETHER. Here are three army officer daggers which most probably will never leave me. A midperiod HÖLLER worn during the period by one of my closest relatives, an until now one-of-a-kind HARTKOPF which did come from the grat son of the former wearer - therefore I do know the name of the wearer and an EICKHORN with pure ivory grip and stamped mm. all have the proper accoutrement but I decided to store them this way. The HARTKOPF was worn with this certain luft portepee, wrapped in this manner, therefore it was allowed to stay this way  . Regards, 1.JPG (111.85 KB, 164 downloads) 2.JPG (96.8 KB, 164 downloads) 3.JPG (95.47 KB, 165 downloads) 4.JPG (111.82 KB, 166 downloads) 5.JPG (112.27 KB, 164 downloads)
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Very impressive!
Adding some pics!
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Some like army display! Here is a beauty from Max of 2006
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"What makes you want a dagger!Color grip,maker,mint" - I would say: ALL TOGETHER. Here are three army officer daggers which most probably will never leave me. A midperiod HÖLLER worn during the period by one of my closest relatives, an until now one-of-a-kind HARTKOPF which did come from the grat son of the former wearer - therefore I do know the name of the wearer and an EICKHORN with pure ivory grip and stamped mm. all have the proper accoutrement but I decided to store them this way. The HARTKOPF was worn with this certain luft portepee, wrapped in this manner, therefore it was allowed to stay this way . Regards, Wotan, Those are just wonderful examples of rarities on what can be found (rarely), on a 'variations on a theme' in army dagger collecting in the hobby. Thanks for sharing those. -Serge-
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Serge, pvon, thank you, glad you like them. And Serge, yes, at least the HARTKOPF and the EICKHORN are extremely/very rare.
Nice items here shown all the way.
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Serge, pvon, thank you, glad you like them. And Serge, yes, at least the HARTKOPF and the EICKHORN are extremely/very rare.
Nice items here shown all the way.
Regards,
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Wotan, THAT Hartkopf is REDICULOUSLY rare! Very nice condition too. I think the only mark that matches it in rarity may be the Gebr. Grafrath Heer...Kevin.
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heers68, you are totally right. It´s for sure one of my best daggers.
Best regards,
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Thanks Pvon,
I still have a nice collection, but it's alot smaleer these days,. I still have my black grips.
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Wotan, Is there any chance we could see the whole maker mark on that Hartkopf??
It's ALL in the DETAILS!!.......
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Beautiful daggers guys For me important is the maker and condition Stingray
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Beautiful collection of Pack daggers Stingray! Love the Pack navy. Extremely rare! Thanks for showing.
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Stingray, you have a fine collection!
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Always looking for Eickhorns and etched bayonets.
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Stingray A beautiful group of daggers! Packs to boot! Thanks for showing! Bob lets see those daggers! I want to see that red handle you got from JR! I know you have some beauties! Do you still have many from Denny?
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Hey Paul.
I have sold alot of my collection, but i still kept a few rare ones . I will try to shoot some pics and email you them asap.
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Can't wait to see them Bob! Get close and shoot! Take front half top so we get good handle shot! Take outside in light! Don't resize ! No blurry shots!  Thanks Anyone get more dagger shots!
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Some Luft photo's and a Luft letter opener!
And a nice clean white handle!
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This has been one outstanding thread! So many daggers to look at and enjoy! GD members should really be happy that others are seeing the fruits of their labor! Even the the ones that won't show or say a word that could must be spitting dust! Thats always funny! My goal was to get this forum going again and a big thanks to all who show stuff or say a few words! If you haven't shown something or at least gave a thumbs up to those that did! Its not too late! I like this Lemon color handle!
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Would also like to see gilding on swaz of luft daggers!
Its been a pleasure to observe so many fine looking daggers!
Would also like to know what you would like to find or makers you are hunting for!
Are their makers you want? Or can't get enough of?
Or maybe add a ivory like Baz!
Engraved blade? Killer navy?
Lets hear from you!
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Ryan Sellick has answered my call to send pics for members to
enjoy!
I am able to post and resize!
Here is a special navy and thanks to Ryan for showing!
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A few 1st Lufts can't hurt.  
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Stunning 1st lufts shown Serge! Great makers and patina richness is unreal! Those are to kill for pices! They need seperate pics of makers and close ups! They are much to nice not to drool over! PVON
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